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A_Med · 03-14-2006, 07:46 AM

Ran another 100 rounds through the 45 last night with the 18# spring and I think this might be the ticket. It was flawless. So much so I shot it in my Monday Night pistol match and had no problems. Now I'm dying to go even lower. Can I use the full size spring for the Tactical in 16# and cut it down or is their a 16# spring for the service I could get?

paiste1 · 03-15-2006, 02:21 PM

Don,

Any chance you will be researching the guide rod and spring for a 5" tactical in 45 ACP in the near future?

Don · 03-15-2006, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A_Med

Ran another 100 rounds through the 45 last night with the 18# spring and I think this might be the ticket. It was flawless. So much so I shot it in my Monday Night pistol match and had no problems. Now I'm dying to go even lower. Can I use the full size spring for the Tactical in 16# and cut it down or is their a 16# spring for the service I could get?

There is not a direct spring for the Sevice that is 16#, but I think you can cut down a Commander 16# and have it work. I have several commander size springs that I need to measure compressed length and then I can tell you how many coils to cut.

But the parents are coming to visit this weekend and I am cleaning like mad to make the house half way presentable so I might not get to it until Saturday.

Don · 03-15-2006, 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paiste1

Don,

Any chance you will be researching the guide rod and spring for a 5" tactical in 45 ACP in the near future?

I think the Tactical retains the same design as the XD9/40 line, so no custom rod is needed, and standard/full size 1911 springs should work.

tec · 03-15-2006, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Don

Quote:

Originally Posted by A_Med

Ran another 100 rounds through the 45 last night with the 18# spring and I think this might be the ticket. It was flawless. So much so I shot it in my Monday Night pistol match and had no problems. Now I'm dying to go even lower. Can I use the full size spring for the Tactical in 16# and cut it down or is their a 16# spring for the service I could get?

There is not a direct spring for the Sevice that is 16#, but I think you can cut down a Commander 16# and have it work. I have several commander size springs that I need to measure compressed length and then I can tell you how many coils to cut.

But the parents are coming to visit this weekend and I am cleaning like mad to make the house half way presentable so I might not get to it until Saturday.

But MOM, I swear!!! I did clean my room!

.45shooter · 03-17-2006, 07:10 PM

So now that we know this works for the XD45, any ideas on a release date for Don's guide rod for the XD45?

Don · 03-17-2006, 08:18 PM

I want to play with some springs a bit more, and take some additional measurements. I have my reloading bench set up enough to load on the single stage press and I have about a thousand sized and primed brass, so I'll make a wide range of loads from bunny fart to maximum to see what happens and get some starting suggestions. I won't cover all the bases but just enough to give some idea.
A couple more weeks for that, and some feedback from the prototypes and I'll get drawings out for production. I am thinking bronze bushing just like the prototypes for the slide.

**RONNIEJ** · 03-18-2006, 06:01 AM

Don,
We had a chance to run about 400 more rounds in the XD 45 ACP Thursday--we ran reloads at low power to Rangers 230 JHP--we had not one problem with the 18 lb spring at any time. My 11 year old granddaughter put about 100 down range with it and and another 50 or so with my KIMBER and she really shot the XD better--this was her first trip with anything larger than 9MM--not one miss feed--jam or any other problem.
I like the set up with the service guide rod and the new bushing just fine. I would like to have 3 or 4 bushings on hand, just in case--strange things happen during cleaning--and a rod for my 9MM.. If you would ship with an invoice , I would gladly pay for the extra bushings.

Best
Ron Johnson

A_Med · 03-18-2006, 11:28 AM

Don,

Can the bushings be made of anything harder than the prototypes? The one you sent me has worked flawlessly but it does seem to take a beating. Gouges from the spring end. Probably not a big deal but wonder if after some time it would wear out from this.

Also, are you planning to make a rod with a larger flange to better sit in the groove on the 45?

Don · 03-18-2006, 05:33 PM

I am partial to the bronze, but they could be made out of steel. That would mean a couple of additional steps to polish and harden and blue. but if I went with a stainless alloy I could get away with very little follow up work.
I think I will contact my Loctite rep to see if I can get single use type packaging to make the bushing a semi-permanent part. It would cure the loss issues and can still be removed with solvents or mild heat later. 'You guys go for that?

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Originally Posted by RONNIEJ

Don, I would like to have 3 or 4 bushings on hand, just in case--strange things happen during cleaning--and a rod for my 9MM.. If you would ship with an invoice , I would gladly pay for the extra bushings.

Ron, if you want some bushings right away let me know, otherwise I am reconsidering the material as indicated above and that might be a best fix.

A_Med, the final rod will have a larger head to fit in the locking block proper.

03-14-2006, 07:46 AM	#11
A_Med XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Virginia Posts: 261	Ran another 100 rounds through the 45 last night with the 18# spring and I think this might be the ticket. It was flawless. So much so I shot it in my Monday Night pistol match and had no problems. Now I'm dying to go even lower. Can I use the full size spring for the Tactical in 16# and cut it down or is their a 16# spring for the service I could get? __________________ XD-9 Tactical, Tru-Glo TFO\'s, Canyon Creek Trigger, DGR XD-45 ACP Service, All Stock Custom STI .40, Millenium Custom STI Trojan 9MM, Brazos Custom Angel

03-17-2006, 07:10 PM	#16
.45shooter XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Alabama Posts: 133	So now that we know this works for the XD45, any ideas on a release date for Don's guide rod for the XD45? __________________ XD45 Service, Oly AR-15, Springfield XD45acp, RIA 1911, Kel-tec P3AT, Ruger MKIII Target, Mossberg 500 12ga., Marlin M60, American Arms DB 12ga.

03-17-2006, 08:18 PM	#17
Don XDTalk 4K Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Pullman, WA Posts: 4,232	I want to play with some springs a bit more, and take some additional measurements. I have my reloading bench set up enough to load on the single stage press and I have about a thousand sized and primed brass, so I'll make a wide range of loads from bunny fart to maximum to see what happens and get some starting suggestions. I won't cover all the bases but just enough to give some idea. A couple more weeks for that, and some feedback from the prototypes and I'll get drawings out for production. I am thinking bronze bushing just like the prototypes for the slide. __________________ Don geek with guns Why don\'t you all f-f-f-fade away.... FAQ - Don\'s Guide Rod

03-18-2006, 06:01 AM	#18
RONNIEJ XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: KY Posts: 262	A FEW MORE Don, We had a chance to run about 400 more rounds in the XD 45 ACP Thursday--we ran reloads at low power to Rangers 230 JHP--we had not one problem with the 18 lb spring at any time. My 11 year old granddaughter put about 100 down range with it and and another 50 or so with my KIMBER and she really shot the XD better--this was her first trip with anything larger than 9MM--not one miss feed--jam or any other problem. I like the set up with the service guide rod and the new bushing just fine. I would like to have 3 or 4 bushings on hand, just in case--strange things happen during cleaning--and a rod for my 9MM.. If you would ship with an invoice , I would gladly pay for the extra bushings. Best Ron Johnson __________________ SHOOT CENTER AND LIVE FREE PM Poage 325 F&A.M., N R A ENDOWMENT MEMBER D A V LIFE MEMBER http://www.kygrips.com/

03-18-2006, 11:28 AM	#19
A_Med XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Virginia Posts: 261	Don, Can the bushings be made of anything harder than the prototypes? The one you sent me has worked flawlessly but it does seem to take a beating. Gouges from the spring end. Probably not a big deal but wonder if after some time it would wear out from this. Also, are you planning to make a rod with a larger flange to better sit in the groove on the 45? __________________ XD-9 Tactical, Tru-Glo TFO\'s, Canyon Creek Trigger, DGR XD-45 ACP Service, All Stock Custom STI .40, Millenium Custom STI Trojan 9MM, Brazos Custom Angel

03-15-2006, 02:21 PM	#12
paiste1 XDTalk Newbie Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 13	Don, Any chance you will be researching the guide rod and spring for a 5" tactical in 45 ACP in the near future?

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