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This is a discussion on Firearm Safety within the The Classroom forums, part of the Use and Training category; Okay, so we all know (or should know) the basic safety rules. Is it just me or has anybody else noticed that the safety rules ...


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Old 07-23-2012, 02:09 PM   #1
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Firearm Safety

Okay, so we all know (or should know) the basic safety rules.

Is it just me or has anybody else noticed that the safety rules differ from State to State?

For example, in California they seem to have six (6) gun safety rules, where in SC they have only four (4) safety rules.

Here are California's (Source: http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/forms/pdf/hscsg.pdf):

1. Treat all guns as if they are loaded.
2. Keep the gun pointed in the safest possible direction.
3. Keep your finger off the trigger until you are ready to shoot.
4. Know your target, its surroundings and beyond.
5. Know how to properly operate your gun. <== Actually seems like a reasonable addition to the basic four (4)
6. Store your gun safely and securely to prevent unauthorized use. Guns and ammunition should be stored separately.


#6 is the one I have a problem with. I mean, how much safety can I possibly have if an intruder breaks into my home and I have ALL my guns stored securely and the ammo stored separately?

Personally, I keep at least a handgun with a full magazine IN the firearm ready at all times. It is all totally inert unless I rack the slide to chamber a round and ready the weapon.

Has anyone else come across any crazy safety rules?

Just saying... Does anyone else notice some safety rules don't make sense
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Old 07-29-2012, 10:46 PM   #3
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Now of course no matter what RSO or servicemenber you talk to, the phrasing or words might be different. I just follow the Military's 4 safety rules.

TREAT-treat every weapon as if it was loaded
NEVER- never point your weapon at anything you don't not plan to kill (or shoot)
KEEP- keep your weapon pointed in a safe direction at all times
KEEP- keep your weapon on safe and finger off the tiger until you are ready to fire (or shoot)

Now the rules I told my wife are phrased are very short.
IF- if your finger is on the trigger you're going to kill that person
UNTIL-until you have cleared and unloaded the gun, its NOT SAFE
NEVER- never point it unless you want to kill that person


it is very short, but, i think it works for a wife that doesn't use guns like i do.
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Now of course no matter what RSO or servicemenber you talk to, the phrasing or words might be different. I just follow the Military's 4 safety rules.

TREAT-treat every weapon as if it was loaded
NEVER- never point your weapon at anything you don't not plan to kill (or shoot)
KEEP- keep your weapon pointed in a safe direction at all times
KEEP- keep your weapon on safe and finger off the tiger until you are ready to fire (or shoot)

Now the rules I told my wife are phrased are very short.
IF- if your finger is on the trigger you're going to kill that person
UNTIL-until you have cleared and unloaded the gun, its NOT SAFE
NEVER- never point it unless you want to kill that person


it is very short, but, i think it works for a wife that doesn't use guns like i do.
Yup...4 rules in the Marines

  • Treat every weapon as if it were loaded.
  • Keep your finger straight and off the trigger until you intend to fire...aka booger hook off bang switch
  • Never point your weapon at anything you don’t intend to shoot.
  • Keep your weapon on safe until you intend to fire.
Keep it simple and to the point
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Yup...4 rules in the Marines

  • Treat every weapon as if it were loaded.
  • Keep your finger straight and off the trigger until you intend to fire...aka booger hook off bang switch
  • Never point your weapon at anything you don’t intend to shoot.
  • Keep your weapon on safe until you intend to fire.
Keep it simple and to the point

Exactly, my whole stance is that the rules should be kept as simple as possible because even with four simple rules, people still manage to accidentally shoot themselves.

I always thing, "how can anybody be that stupid?" because it has never happened to me, but I know it CAN and WILL happen the moment I drop my guard!
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Exactly, my whole stance is that the rules should be kept as simple as possible because even with four simple rules, people still manage to accidentally shoot themselves.

I always thing, "how can anybody be that stupid?" because it has never happened to me, but I know it CAN and WILL happen the moment I drop my guard!
speaking of stupid, we have guns that try saving 30 seconds by downloading their M9 going off watch while walking down the p-way to the armory!!!
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6. Store your gun safely and securely to prevent unauthorized use. Guns and ammunition should be stored separately.


#6 is the one I have a problem with. I mean, how much safety can I possibly have if an intruder breaks into my home and I have ALL my guns stored securely and the ammo stored separately?

Personally, I keep at least a handgun with a full magazine IN the firearm ready at all times. It is all totally inert unless I rack the slide to chamber a round and ready the weapon.

Has anyone else come across any crazy safety rules?

Just saying... Does anyone else notice some safety rules don't make sense
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Yup...4 rules in the Marines

  • Treat every weapon as if it were loaded.
  • Keep your finger straight and off the trigger until you intend to fire...aka booger hook off bang switch
  • Never point your weapon at anything you don’t intend to shoot.
  • Keep your weapon on safe until you intend to fire.
Keep it simple and to the point
Yep, These rules are forever burned into my head lol. I'm big on weapon safety, and I seem to notice every little thing other people do that isn't safe with a firearm... call me paranoid haha
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