XD Talk

HighFlyingA380 · 11-30-2011, 01:27 PM

Hi. I was looking for some help/advice on improving my grip and shooting technique. Here are some photos of the grip I normally use with and without my light/laser combo. I know everyone does it differently, and I would like to see some other options to try them out. Thanks for your input!

KenW. · 11-30-2011, 01:42 PM

Nice pics of your grip. How's it work for you? I have found that I hit even further left with my support-hand index finger up on the trigger guard like that. On bothe the XD and 1911 platforms. I don't know why texture it as to imply thats where your finger goes.

I'm trying to keepo that finger down now, and putting the support thumb on the take-down lever.

Ken

sschrick · 11-30-2011, 01:53 PM

my opinion: research the "thumbs-forward" technique on the internet. It looks like you are using a thumb-over-thumb technique which is more suited for revolver shooting. I do not put my finger on the front of the trigger guard. Also, IMO, it looks like you have too much trigger finger on the trigger. I use only the pad of my index finger, right in between the tip of my finger and the first joint. Also, my arms are not in a push-pull position as yours appear to be. I straighten and lock-out both arms.
Check out the Travis Haley (Magpul) handgun grip video. . .

Travis Haley on Handgun Grip - YouTube

HighFlyingA380 · 11-30-2011, 02:07 PM

KenW: Like this? If so, that feels alot more secure. One of my problems with my previous grip was that my finger on the trigger guard would slip off with the recoil, thus forcing me to re-grip for every shot. With the grip you suggested, my entire finger wraps around the trigger guard, and my thumb on the take-down lever will also help counteract the recoil. Even with the light/laser, I have a better grip around my strong hand, as well as the added help of the thumb. I can't wait to go to the range and test it out, especially with raid fire. Thanks!

sschrick: That makes sense, I have been shooting revolvers since as long as I can remember, and I just now entering the pistol realm. With only using the pad of my finger, it would slip off and I would have to 'find' the trigger for every shot. I guess combining that advice with the new grip, I won't loose the trigger for follow-up shots. Also, great video! It helps me alot to not only hear what to do, but why (engineers mind). Thanks!

Sogan · 11-30-2011, 02:10 PM

ya thats better. Now I dont know if thats normaly how you pull the trigger but if so you are usuing way to much of your finger to pull the trigger. Try using just your finger tip (that way you dont move anything more than u need to) it should help you be a little more constant and not pull to one way or the other

**agalindo** · 11-30-2011, 02:13 PM

Cant your weak hand more at an angle (45deg). Feels weird but works better you actually feel the stretch from the canted hand.

bobbo65 · 11-30-2011, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by sschrick

my opinion: research the "thumbs-forward" technique on the internet. It looks like you are using a thumb-over-thumb technique which is more suited for revolver shooting. I do not put my finger on the front of the trigger guard. Also, IMO, it looks like you have too much trigger finger on the trigger. I use only the pad of my index finger, right in between the tip of my finger and the first joint. Also, my arms are not in a push-pull position as yours appear to be. I straighten and lock-out both arms.
Check out the Travis Haley (Magpul) handgun grip video. . .

Travis Haley on Handgun Grip - YouTube

^^^This^^^

AKC · 11-30-2011, 02:23 PM

Yea what Agalindo said. Your support hand needs to be up more as high as you can get it on the gun. With your support thumb aimed in the direction of the target along the side of the frame just below the slide. Your wrist will fell stretched as far as you can get it at that angle which will give you better recoil management because you lock it in better.

It does feel awkward at first. And keep your finger of the trigger guard.

Thumbs forward grip technique.

KenW. · 11-30-2011, 02:24 PM

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KenW: Like this? If so, that feels alot more secure. One of my problems with my previous grip was that my finger on the trigger guard would slip off with the recoil, thus forcing me to re-grip for every shot. With the grip you suggested, my entire finger wraps around the trigger guard, and my thumb on the take-down lever will also help counteract the recoil. Even with the light/laser, I have a better grip around my strong hand, as well as the added help of the thumb. I can't wait to go to the range and test it out, especially with raid fire

I like to cover the take-down lever with my thumb, and not place it above the lever as shown in your photo.

If your support hand is slipping under recoil, you are not holding tightly enough. I've heard to use 60% of the gripping power on the support hand, and only 40% with the strong hand.

vgk1nka1dx · 11-30-2011, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sschrick

my opinion: research the "thumbs-forward" technique on the internet. It looks like you are using a thumb-over-thumb technique which is more suited for revolver shooting. I do not put my finger on the front of the trigger guard. Also, IMO, it looks like you have too much trigger finger on the trigger. I use only the pad of my index finger, right in between the tip of my finger and the first joint. Also, my arms are not in a push-pull position as yours appear to be. I straighten and lock-out both arms.
Check out the Travis Haley (Magpul) handgun grip video. . .

Travis Haley on Handgun Grip - YouTube

Wow, very proper technique there. I'm glad I ran across this thread. Thank you for that bit of info. Will definitely use that when I go to the range next time.