My one handed rack technique.This is a discussion on My one handed rack technique. within the The Classroom forums, part of the Use and Training category; Originally Posted by agalindo
Dead serious.
Agreed.
Rest of comment withdrawn. I didn't see that you don't carry with an unloaded chamber anymore....
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09-16-2011, 07:11 PM
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Dead serious.
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Agreed.
Rest of comment withdrawn. I didn't see that you don't carry with an unloaded chamber anymore.
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I have the 4.5" with a tac light. its a bit heavy and takes a bit of the old "jackie chan" action but it can be done.
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09-16-2011, 07:14 PM
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Agreed.
Rest of comment withdrawn. I didn't see that you don't carry with an unloaded chamber anymore.
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I am still a bit leery of having a chambered round.
edit: you edited lol
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09-16-2011, 08:53 PM
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Op I would like to see you eject and chamber a round with this technique. I recommend you using snap caps though. I don't think there is enough snap speed with this grip to properly extract and feed a round consistently.
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09-16-2011, 09:01 PM
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I have been doing this technique "empty". I dont wanna be jackie channing around with a condition 1 handgun.
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09-16-2011, 11:29 PM
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While you're technique is...interesting...I'm in the camp of the rear-sight grab on anything...pants, belt, holster, shoe. It's fast, and you're back on target fast.
To the OP, can you do malfunction drills with that effectively and quickly with that technique (one handed)?
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i read about one handed racking before i bought my xdsc. one of the first things i did when i got home was try to rack it using your technique. i never even thought about using the rear sites until i read this thread.
i can rack and lock my slide back with my strong hand if i want. i've actually practiced doing everything with one hand - ejecting mag, putting in a new mag, chambering a round. i haven't tried to eject a round but i think your right hand might cause a problem if the finger is in the way...
i can see the point of all these people ripping on the technique but why not have more tools in your bag? you can never be to prepared, and if anything at the very least it's a great thing to show off to your buds.
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09-17-2011, 12:08 AM
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A) do a malfunction drill with that method and video it. Gonna be a whole different thing
B) While that method technically "works" its simply not superior to the tried and true shoe, belt, table edge or other methods of one handed racking that have been taught for years. And used under duress in actual encounters.
C) While its great that you've become very dexterous in manipulating your firearm, and one never knows what predicament one might be in, please be aware that just because your idea is novel, new, and you figured it out first (in your opinion) that its tactically sound, it is not. What happens when you get the web of your hand caught in the slide? Especially if your other hand IS out of commission, uh, oh, game over. Your hand cant get fouled in the action with the method most often taught to do one handed racking.
D) Please don't be offended if folks with lots of experience point out why it's not such a good idea. I would hate for someone new to carrying to actually end up in an encounter and have to get a round in the chamber for whatever reason and try that vs just whipping the slide across something. They'll be back in the fight much quicker with the "old" methods than with yours.
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09-17-2011, 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by thewarriorhunter
i read about one handed racking before i bought my xdsc. one of the first things i did when i got home was try to rack it using your technique. i never even thought about using the rear sites until i read this thread.
i can rack and lock my slide back with my strong hand if i want. i've actually practiced doing everything with one hand - ejecting mag, putting in a new mag, chambering a round. i haven't tried to eject a round but i think your right hand might cause a problem if the finger is in the way...
i can see the point of all these people ripping on the technique but why not have more tools in your bag?
Because there is a better way, that works 100% or the time if trained correctly. It's not about "ripping" on anyones method, its about presenting ALL the information. What wrong with accepting that other folks have "been there done that" and found better ways of doing it and are trying to prevent other new folks from making the same mistakes?
you can never be to prepared, and if anything at the very least it's a great thing to show off to your buds.
I dont care to show off to my buds, Parlor trocks are for the parlor, not the range, especially the two way one.
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No offense, just presenting the counterpoint and trying to explain why so many other folks are taking issue with this method.
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09-17-2011, 12:38 AM
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No offense, just presenting the counterpoint and trying to explain why so many other folks are taking issue with this method.
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that's cool with me. i'm glad this was brought up because like i said, i had never thought to use the rear sites to assist with racking the slide. i do agree that that would be more effective... but i guess if you're in sweat pants, bare foot, and in the middle of an open field the technique would be useful.
if people hadn't been pointing out what they felt was wrong with this method i would never have learned about the 'old' methods. if you approach things in a humble manner you can usually always learn something.
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