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joker1 · 10-10-2012, 03:51 PM

If the employee manual prohibits firearms on property then it's up to you to decide if your employment is more valuable to you than you carrying concealed while at work.

If there is nothing in the manual and not prohibited in the building, keep your mouth shut and carry. I understand the urge to get approval but I also understand how quickly people can go full retard when it comes to guns in their presence.

Concealed is concealed. Avoid hugs, learn to squat rather than bend over, resist the urge to talk about it with co-workers. No one ever has to know until it's time, hopefully that time never comes.

DGH · 10-10-2012, 04:10 PM

I strongly suggest you read your state's gun laws.

For example, in SC:

16-23-30 (13) ... the employee may exercise this privilege... (concealed carrying at work) ...only after: (a) acquiring a permit pursuant to item (12), and (b) obtaining the permission of the owner or person in legal control or legal possession of the premises;

If you carry at work w/o express permission you are in violation. Whether it is 'in the manual' or not is irrelevant.

rohicks · 10-10-2012, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by joker1

If the employee manual prohibits firearms on property then it's up to you to decide if your employment is more valuable to you than you carrying concealed while at work.

If there is nothing in the manual and not prohibited in the building, keep your mouth shut and carry. I understand the urge to get approval but I also understand how quickly people can go full retard when it comes to guns in their presence.

Concealed is concealed. Avoid hugs, learn to squat rather than bend over, resist the urge to talk about it with co-workers. No one ever has to know until it's time, hopefully that time never comes.

Well I think that's pretty obvious. Why would I carry if it's prohibited. That's just dumb. The idea here is to carry within the rules and regulations not violate them.

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Originally Posted by DGH

I strongly suggest you read your state's gun laws.

For example, in SC:

16-23-30 (13) ... the employee may exercise this privilege... (concealed carrying at work) ...only after: (a) acquiring a permit pursuant to item (12), and (b) obtaining the permission of the owner or person in legal control or legal possession of the premises;

If you carry at work w/o express permission you are in violation. Whether it is 'in the manual' or not is irrelevant.

Again I think that's obvious statement. Not sure who would carry without knowing the law. But you have a good point because the SC law seems to a bit finicky on the subject if your not careful. Thanks.

Bigpapacolt · 10-10-2012, 05:48 PM

Concealed means concealed, who will know? Just a though

fireproof69 · 10-10-2012, 06:35 PM

I know our HR people are NOT gun friendly. I remember back when OK law passed to prohibit employers from prohibiting employees from having guns inside a locked vehicle in the parking lot, we had a shop meeting. Our HR rep had a real attitude..."I know some of you THINK that a law was passed to allow weapons in the parking lot, but company policy still prohibits ANY weapons anywhere on company property!" It took about a year (after the attempts to appeal), before they changed the handbook to actually reflect they could NOT prohibit the parking lot.

So, all that being said...check state law, check company policy...if not restricted, I would not ask/tell anyone else.

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ebMike · 10-10-2012, 06:51 PM

concealed is concealed

inanebignate · 10-10-2012, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by HuskYJW

If there are no signs on the building and nothing in your Employment Manual....why would you create an issue when there isn't one?

This!!! Look over the emloyee handbook if their is nothing in it about firearms then do not bring it that will likely cause them to add that policy in

rohicks · 10-10-2012, 08:51 PM

Well i got back from my CCW class about an hour ago. Based on input and discussions with the rest of the people from the tactical shop I think I'm going to sit down with my boss and discuss it. I think it's the right thing to do, and it's only going to be a problem if they are not gun friendly obviously. The way I see it is the worst that comes from discussing it is they say they are against it via a company policy or they personally advise against it, but no company policy is in place to enforce it. Which, if the latter was the case I could carry, but they may not feel completely comfortable with it.

I don't feel that threatened at work and wouldn't be that upset about it if I wasn't allowed to. So to me it's not a big issue to bring it up, and in fact I think it's a sign of a good gesture to my boss. Showing that I am willing to openly discuss these personal things with her that could affect everyone in the office regardless if I lawfully have the right to conceal at work. So that's my opinion as of right now.

I appreciate all the feedback; I think this has been a constructive thread. I'll keep you posted on the end result of what happens with my boss. I'm digging into my handbook right now to find any policies if they exist, and if so then i guess that ends everything for me tonight

Devil Dawg · 10-10-2012, 10:02 PM

I am taking the class here this weekend, and this somewhat applies to me. My company owners both have pistols in their offices, but have stated that in a forthcoming company handbook they will not allow personal firearms on property.

The bitter pill being that they will not take theirs home, but I will be expected to leave mine in my vehicle or be in violation of company policy and by default the law. We have had some issues in the past with former employees who have a checkered past so to speak. Needless to say I am hitting the job boards.

Glad you brought this topic up OP, and all the opinions since.

ID_ford_boy · 10-10-2012, 10:59 PM

It is against company policy for me to carry at work or even have a weapon in the car on company property (and I have to have my vehicle on property in the event of an associate accident) so no go for me. If I made the call to carry at work I certainly wouldn't tell a soul.