Very Disturbing

[dcgadams]

I saw this section on CC and to me it is very shocking and disturbing the questions that are asked in this section.

The one that really made my head spin was the question about the T shirt for a man that has been asked to go with patroling his nieghborhood.

Tons of questions about where people can and can't conceal a weapon and if they can. Should i take a gun into a place with a sign that says no. Come on people read the laws. if you want to carry a loaded gun please read the laws of your state. remember that you are not here on this earth to hunt down fellons (law enforcement is for that) If someone is here to do you harm and you can't run because he has a gun or a knife and means to harm you by all means draw and shoot to kill. You are supposed to choose flight over fight and if the law can prove you did not have to pull the trigger you are in trouble.

I know this is rambling but it seems that the level of stupidity of people is why so many are against guns. Know the law and act responsible.

I see at the top of this section there is a sticky about the states CC laws. most don't read from what i am seeing and because you have a permit that does not mean you are in law enforcement. You weapon is to protect your life and does not mean you are a neighborhood patrol.

Am i off base here i thought this would be about the best way to carry with accessories etc. Reading some of these threads on hear makes me concerned about some people being sane enough to carry. Sorry if this makes people made but i am very responsible in what i do some questions on here make me concerned about my future right to carry. Remember the few will ruin things for the many. Try really hard not to be one of the few is all i am saying. do your research.

JMO

[HowardMan]

a lot of people come here seeking advice so they can carry legally and responsibly. i would much rather have someone ask what you could consider a "stupid" question on here and find out the answer than have them be ignorant of what they should be doing. there is a lot of grey area in some states gun laws and it sometimes helps to run a question by people who have experience with a topic. if someone is very off base with their assumptions you'll find they are quickly corrected. also, depending on a persons location there isnt a duty to retreat so the requirement of flight before fight isnt set in stone.

in short- this is a place of learning and i'd much rather have someone find out that their idea is stupid on an internet forum than have them try something dumb in life and make the gun community look stupid by association.

[dcgadams]

i agree good place to learn. Ask a question but you should already know the laws before you conceal carry.

My dad use to say it is better to have half of something than 100 percent of nothing.

When it comes to conceal carry you have to understand the laws 100 percent before you carry your weapon out of your house. The state police web site puts the law into terms that we all can understand and the first thread on this forum is there to help people with that. if they don't understand then this is a good place to ask.

My point is that when i read things like what shirt should i wear on neighborhood patrol or should i obey a no guns allowed sign then my head spins around.

People have the ability to carry a concealed weapon and it is a big responsibility. No question is ever a dumb question it is just when you read some of these you know that there are a lot of people that have a ccw permit that really should not. They carry hoping and praying that one day they will get the opportunity to use the weapon.. I could go on and on but just read some of the questions. No they are not stupid just disturbing.

When i took my course the instructor made it perfectly clear. know the law before you carry. Even if you do shoot an armed man he could find a way to sue you if you do not know the law. If you have ever been sued i will tell you this much. if you don't have the funds for a lawyer you will lose.

Read the laws where you are going to carry and then ask if you don't understand. but do not carry without understanding the law. this is a good place to ask but remember these are all just opinions of others just like mine.

Yes questions are good but read the law in your state then ask if you don't understand and please if you want to chase fellons become a member of the law enforcement community.

I am from Virginia and i have looked at most of the cc laws in the surrounding states because i do travel.

[chb119]

Like any group of people, there are good and bad, there are people who should carry a gun, and ones who should not. However if a member of the should not group decide they are going to carry at least ask some questions, and then do not get pissy when they hear answers they don’t want.

[Ridge]

If you read the thread where the guy asked about the CCW t-shirt, you'll notice that was told again and again, not to do it. Maybe his stupid question post saved his or someone elses life. We're all learning here. This is a great group of people

[Knightslugger]

Originally Posted by dcgadams

You are supposed to choose flight over fight and if the law can prove you did not have to pull the trigger you are in trouble.

...yeah... in the People's Liberal Democratic Territories of Canada maybe... make no mistake, if he's coming after me with a knife, i will put him down. period.

You weapon is to protect your life and does not mean you are a neighborhood patrol.

no, but if i'm on neighborhood patrol, that means my likely-hood of encountering a threat has just increased. If you're not armed, or if the laws of your state say you cannot be, you are going to be made a fool. Better to have it and not need it and all... I don't think anyone has argued to the contrary.

[KenW.]

All the organized and police trained and authorized citizen patrols in my area prohibit the members from carrying firearms.

I was certainly surprised that Zimmerman was carrying.

[AwPhuch]

Originally Posted by dcgadams

I saw this section on CC and to me it is very shocking and disturbing the questions that are asked in this section.

The one that really made my head spin was the question about the T shirt for a man that has been asked to go with patroling his nieghborhood.

Tons of questions about where people can and can't conceal a weapon and if they can. Should i take a gun into a place with a sign that says no. Come on people read the laws. if you want to carry a loaded gun please read the laws of your state. remember that you are not here on this earth to hunt down fellons (law enforcement is for that) If someone is here to do you harm and you can't run because he has a gun or a knife and means to harm you by all means draw and shoot to kill. You are supposed to choose flight over fight and if the law can prove you did not have to pull the trigger you are in trouble.

I know this is rambling but it seems that the level of stupidity of people is why so many are against guns. Know the law and act responsible.

I see at the top of this section there is a sticky about the states CC laws. most don't read from what i am seeing and because you have a permit that does not mean you are in law enforcement. You weapon is to protect your life and does not mean you are a neighborhood patrol.

Am i off base here i thought this would be about the best way to carry with accessories etc. Reading some of these threads on hear makes me concerned about some people being sane enough to carry. Sorry if this makes people made but i am very responsible in what i do some questions on here make me concerned about my future right to carry. Remember the few will ruin things for the many. Try really hard not to be one of the few is all i am saying. do your research.

JMO

In Texas they won't issue a conceal carry license till you LEARN the law in a classroom setting...then show proficiency with a firearm AFTER a very long background check to ensure you are not a badguy in goodguy clothing (aka ain't a felon)

Maybe it's time for YOU to get some education!!

Originally Posted by KenW.

All the organized and police trained and authorized citizen patrols in my area prohibit the members from carrying firearms.

I was certainly surprised that Zimmerman was carrying.

Welcome to the South

Self defense starts with "self" for a reason

[Montourage]

I personally don't find the questions disturbing. People ask because they want different opinions and they get precisely that. I say high visibility shirt

[Obscura]

Originally Posted by dcgadams

Should i take a gun into a place with a sign that says no. Come on people read the laws.

I don't know where you live, but in Texas law abiding citizens are taught in our concealed handgun licence classes that we should ignore improper signs.

In Texas there are two different signs that restrict a concealed handgun license holder from carrying into a place of business. They are a 30.06 sign, and a 51% sign.

A 30.06 sign is a sign that a business owner can post to restrict a CHL holder from entering the business with a concealed handgun. The sign must contain the exact words required by Section 30.06 in both English and Spanish, be placed in an area visible to the public, and have 1" lettering or it will not be considered a legally-binding 30.06 sign. "Gunbuster" signs, or signs with a red slash through a gun, are not considered valid 30.06 postings.

A 51% sign is a sign that a business is required by law to post if 51% of their revenue is obtained through on-premises drinking, such as at a bar. Unfortunately this also has the consequence of not allowing CHL holders to enter the premises where the drinking is taking place while carrying their handgun.

IMPORTANT: Criminals play by a different set of rules. They buy guns on the street and ignore all the signs. Be aware of this if you choose to do business in an establishment that posts a 30.06 or 51% sign.