Seattle declares emergency confiscate firearms order 5/1This is a discussion on Seattle declares emergency confiscate firearms order 5/1 within the CCW Talk forums, part of the Use and Training category; If someone is trying to disarm you is that not a threat to your person and grounds to defend yourself? If you are legal to ...
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05-02-2012, 10:37 AM
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If someone is trying to disarm you is that not a threat to your person and grounds to defend yourself? If you are legal to begin with why would a LEO attempt to disarm you in the first place!
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05-02-2012, 12:29 PM
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I thought after the confiscation of weapons in New Orleans post Katrina, they made a law that state a mayor can't do this anywhere. Or maybe this major circumvented the law by stating that only confiscate on people that are carrying and not in their homes.
Is this real? Is there any news about this?
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05-02-2012, 12:39 PM
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I put this on the other thread but sure ill recycle it. its worth mentioning.
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05-02-2012, 12:43 PM
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I checked, RCW only allows the Governor to declare emergencies, not the Mayor of Seattle. The Mayor of Seattle's order is illegal and violates state law. Not the first time a Seattle Mayor has tried this. Previous Mayor Nickels' gun bans in parks and recreation facilities was declared illegal by Washington courts. The Washington Supreme Court denied to even consider Seattle's appeal of the lower court ruling.
Why hasn't there been any news of this?
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05-02-2012, 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by mhen
Apparently may day is a celebration of the working comrade. so there were a few demonstrations for that, plus the occupy movement had a couple marches. the anarchists were just mixed in trying to break stuff. they got shut down by PD pretty quick though. The police had a couple day warning that this was probably going to happen.
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FTFY
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05-02-2012, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by mhen
I live about 30-45min south of Seattle and I didn't hear anything about this...I kinda have mixed feelings about this order....
It specifically states an area of the city, so it does not encompass the whole city, just the affected area. Also, it states that it is only for as long as the situation exists. Its unfortunate that permitted CCW firearms get lumped into that, but I like that the police are being given the ability to take weapons away from the vandals. Watching the news there are MANY people running around with sticks, beating people, cars, and businesses.
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In what circumstances are law enforcement officers ever prohibited from disarming someone who is in the process of committing a crime? If it takes an executive order from a Mayor to give police the right to disarm criminals in the process of committing a crime, it's time for you to move somewhere else. There's no fixing that kind of stupid.
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05-02-2012, 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by DMWyatt
In what circumstances are law enforcement officers ever prohibited from disarming someone who is in the process of committing a crime? If it takes an executive order from a Mayor to give police the right to disarm criminals in the process of committing a crime, it's time for you to move somewhere else. There's no fixing that kind of stupid.
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the way I read it and I could have totally misunderstood it seems they are looking to disarm everyone.
to me it doesn't sound like "in commission of a crime". it sounds like "if you have it we will take it" (unless its in your house or business).
if you have hoodlums running around making chaos, I would say leaving your gun at home is a mistake. I would also say cops disarming citizens during a riot and chaos is a huge mistake.
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05-02-2012, 02:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DMWyatt
In what circumstances are law enforcement officers ever prohibited from disarming someone who is in the process of committing a crime? If it takes an executive order from a Mayor to give police the right to disarm criminals in the process of committing a crime, it's time for you to move somewhere else. There's no fixing that kind of stupid.
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First, I agree.
Second, we are talking not just about the police here, but the SEATTLE police. They have been stripped of any power from all the lawsuits brought on by people that think if you shove a cop, they shouldn't push back.
Third, we have "Mayor McSchwinn", the guy that is doing everything possible to get rid of cars and parking in the city. Like Excalibur said, following in the footsteps of a mayor that, because two guys got into a fight and one had a gun that (ironically, "accidentally" went off, it wasn't brandished because of the fight) shot a bystander, tried to ban all guns from any park or public place.
I'd say it's past time for more than just a new mayor. But unfortunately, King county, because of the population, dictates the tone of the whole state, and will carry Obama (and just about any Dem) with an overwhelming majority this November.
/rant off
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05-02-2012, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Bonehead
the way I read it and I could have totally misunderstood it seems they are looking to disarm everyone.
to me it doesn't sound like "in commission of a crime". it sounds like "if you have it we will take it" (unless its in your house or business).
if you have hoodlums running around making chaos, I would say leaving your gun at home is a mistake. I would also say cops disarming citizens during a riot and chaos is a huge mistake.
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They weren't even talking about firearms really, it was aimed (no pun intended) at pipes and sticks, which they were using to break windows. So in true Seattle form, we won't arrest you for breaking windows, we'll just take anything that can be used to break a window away from you, that'll solve the problem! 
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05-02-2012, 02:57 PM
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The streets are not safe so leave your guns at home. 
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