XD Talk

Stogies · 09-23-2011, 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by chb119

Unfortunately increasing this is how the world sees us, low educated rednecks. Mostly because the jacka** chanting USA, USA is the loudest person in the room. We look at him for who he truly is, a jacka**, they see Americans.

I really hoped you corrected this jerk in the other forum, and reminded him unless he is 100% native American at some point his family was immigrants.

Not personally, but rest assured the fact that alle Americans came here at some point did come up rather strongly.

JayXDM · 10-06-2011, 05:12 PM

In Washington State a legal immigrant with a "green card" can obtain a CPL just like a US citizen. You just have to check the box and supply the info about your "green card".

JayXDM · 10-06-2011, 05:21 PM

On the same topic (sort of) my Dad was an illegal alien. Yep, snuck across that border from Vancouver, Canada when he was around 3 or 4 with his just as illegal Mom, Dad, brother and sister and settled in Tacoma, WA. This was in 1928 or 29. All of them became citizens at some point. Dad served 22 years in the US Army. Was in WW2, Korea, and the very early part of Vietnam (1962-1963) when we were just "advisors". Funny story was while he was over in Europe during WW2 he got a letter from the Canadian government informing him he had just been drafted! Luckily the Canadians were reasonable and as long as you were serving with the allies they counted that as good enough.

bigfoots · 10-06-2011, 06:15 PM

become a citizen then get your gun. thats how it should be.
I don't expect to go to another country and buy and carry guns and I'm guessing most countries would not allow this even if I did. So why should it be any different here?
just my 2 cents..

texan_eagle_scout · 10-06-2011, 06:34 PM

If you are legal (in whatever permanent fashion) and can pass the requirements for carrying concealed I have no issue. Everyone has a right to protect themselves.

I don't particularly care how Europe or other countries do things unless it is an example of what not to do.

fat_frog · 10-06-2011, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by bigfoots

become a citizen then get your gun. thats how it should be....

I'm in the U.S. with green card, married to wife who's U.S./Canadian dual citizen, and we now have a almost-1-year-old baby.

Applying your logic, even though I have not broken any laws while living in the U.S. for years (paying tax, etc.), I should not be able to protect myself and my U.S. Citizen wife and son?

Just asking.

SawFish · 10-07-2011, 01:38 AM

TO, Bigfoots: I think you misunderstood. We are not barred from purchasing or owning firearms, we are also not barred from openly carrying them (Where allowed). What we are barred from is getting a permit to carry.

Clinton1621 · 10-07-2011, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by bigfoots

become a citizen then get your gun. thats how it should be.
I don't expect to go to another country and buy and carry guns and I'm guessing most countries would not allow this even if I did. So why should it be any different here?
just my 2 cents..

The law doesnt say you have to be a citizen, a green card holder is not a citizen and they CAN legally buy a firearm... sorry to tell you, it is different here in the land of the free

Clinton1621 · 10-07-2011, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by SawFish

TO, Bigfoots: I think you misunderstood. We are not barred from purchasing or owning firearms, we are also not barred from openly carrying them (Where allowed). What we are barred from is getting a permit to carry.

Did you verify that with the agency in your state that issues CCW's?? I think the legality of it varies from state to state... just like it does for citizens... too bad there isnt some law that says "the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed" ya know

SawFish · 10-07-2011, 01:59 AM

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Applying your logic, even though I have not broken any laws while living in the U.S. for years (paying tax, etc.), I should not be able to protect myself and my U.S. Citizen wife and son?
Just asking.

According to people like Bigfoots...No you do not have the right to protect yourself or your family (until you become a citizen). You are also not allowed to rescue a drowning child.

You might think I'm joking but it's true. I took the lifeguard test in California and passed it. Soon after that I found out that you need to be a natural born citizen to be employed as a lifeguard. So even if you do become a citizen you are considered a Naturalized citizen and therefore not a "real" citizen.

Where does it stop?!
I have a hypothetical question for Bigfoots:
If my daughter is brutalized and raped. Should I shake it off and say, "I can't stop this right now because I'm not a U.S. citizen, carry on guys."