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How did you go about getting insurance when you started carrying?

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Old 01-07-2011, 10:57 AM   #1
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How did you go about getting insurance when you started carrying?

Waiting on my CCW approval, and I'm trying to look into getting personal liability insurance. I e-mailed my insurance agent last weekend, and he still hasn't responded...

So, how did you all go about getting your liability insurance?

Edit: Finally got in contact with my agent's office, and the lady I talked to said it is unclear if an umbrella policy would apply for a justified shoot. Her husband and friends have their CCW permits, and they actually looked into this, and the broker they were researching through said the policies say nothing for or against coverage, so it's really a matter of how lawyers would want to interpret the policy if the situation came up....

Grrr...
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Old 01-07-2011, 03:58 PM   #2
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"Insurance? We don't need no stinkin' insurance." Actually, never thought of it. Would it cover a civil suit? Seems to me you're opening a can of worms best left closed. The insurance company might decide to jack your rate now.
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Old 01-07-2011, 04:23 PM   #3
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I've yet to read a policy that excludes use of a firearm specifically. They exclude coverage for "intentional harm" you cause. But they usually give coverage back when said harm is caused in self defense.

The give back above pertains to civil issues only. I've not seen a policy that will defend you if you are brought up on criminal charges. (Maybe NRA, but probably only some form of reimbursement if you are acquitted.)

BTW. It's not up to the lawyers. It's up to the judge and jury, which is why it's tough to get a clear answer on the matter. Each case is going to be a little different and you won't know what's what for sure until it's over.

You may want to compare what your agent can provide to what the NRA offers. It may be worth having both.

The best advice I can give is this. Read both policies yourself and talk to an attorney that does that kind of work.
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That's what is lovely about certain states. I've not read this anywhere, but during my CCDW class, the instructor noted that if you ever get in to a situation where you have to defend yourself, and it is JUSTIFIED, you cannot have civil charges filed against you. That is, of course, in Kentucky.
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That's what is lovely about certain states. I've not read this anywhere, but during my CCDW class, the instructor noted that if you ever get in to a situation where you have to defend yourself, and it is JUSTIFIED, you cannot have civil charges filed against you. That is, of course, in Kentucky.
Just this past week, here on XDtalk, I read a post where someone in Arizona performed a justified shoot, and even though the state has civil immunity, they were charged anyway.

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That's what is lovely about certain states. I've not read this anywhere, but during my CCDW class, the instructor noted that if you ever get in to a situation where you have to defend yourself, and it is JUSTIFIED, you cannot have civil charges filed against you. That is, of course, in Kentucky.
Your instructor misled you. This is America. Anyone can sue anyone at anytime about anything in any state. Whether it's heard depends on the judge, the lawyers, and maybe the phase of the moon...
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I got mine through the NRA. Their vendors have policies for every contingency.
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Old 01-07-2011, 07:39 PM   #8
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Your instructor misled you.

As an NRA Certified Instructor my assessment of your instructor would not be as kind. In every one of my classes (nwohioccw.com) I have a criminal defense attorney do a 90-minute presentation on concealed carry law and "what if" scenarios.
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Your instructor misled you. This is America. Anyone can sue anyone at anytime about anything in any state. Whether it's heard depends on the judge, the lawyers, and maybe the phase of the moon...
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Castle Doctorine here in SC is actually worded to protect a victim from a civil suit (wrongful death, etc) from the BG's family. They cannot sue you.
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Old 01-09-2011, 09:46 AM   #10
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Your instructor misled you. This is America. Anyone can sue anyone at anytime about anything in any state. Whether it's heard depends on the judge, the lawyers, and maybe the phase of the moon...
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I agree in NM Judges do what they want. As far as the original question; I have USAA and I checked. I am covered for personal liability.
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