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Savage axis 30-06

This is a discussion on Savage axis 30-06 within the Bolt Guns/Precision Rifles forums, part of the Long Gun Talk category; I recently bought savage axis 30-06. How do I properly break in the barrel and I need a pretty good scope for at least two-three ...


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Old 12-01-2011, 11:26 PM   #1
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I recently bought savage axis 30-06. How do I properly break in the barrel and I need a pretty good scope for at least two-three seasons.
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Old 09-17-2012, 08:06 PM   #2
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Sell it

Sell the gun its bad new when you try to cycle the action fast you will not be able to.
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Old 09-17-2012, 09:22 PM   #3
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I recently bought savage axis 30-06. How do I properly break in the barrel and I need a pretty good scope for at least two-three seasons.
honestly, with a factory Savage barrel, don't worry about break in.

what price range for scope?
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Old 09-17-2012, 09:24 PM   #4
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Sell the gun its bad new when you try to cycle the action fast you will not be able to.
Sell it??

Really?

Freaking amazing comment right there.



Anyway back to the OP's question. Every barrel should be broken in factory or custom.

Breaking in. I know this is not a premium barrel but this is an article from Krieger Barrels.


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With any premium barrel that has been finish lapped -- such as your Krieger Barrel --, the lay or direction of the finish is in the direction of the bullet travel, so fouling is minimal compared to a barrel with internal tooling marks. This is true of any properly finish-lapped barrel regardless of how it is rifled. If it is not finish-lapped, there will be reamer marks left in the bore that are directly across the direction of the bullet travel. This occurs even in a button-rifled barrel as the button cannot completely iron out these reamer marks.
Because the lay of the finish is in the direction of the bullet travel, very little is done to the bore during break-in, but the throat is another story. When your barrel is chambered, by necessity there are reamer marks left in the throat that are across the lands, i.e. across the direction of the bullet travel. In a new barrel they are very distinct; much like the teeth on a very fine file. When the bullet is forced into the throat, copper dust is removed from the jacket material and released into the gas which at this temperature and pressure is actually a plasma. The copper dust is vaporized in this plasma and is carried down the barrel. As the gas expands and cools, the copper comes out of suspension and is deposited in the bore. This makes it appear as if the source of the fouling is the bore when it is actually for the most part the new throat. If this copper is allowed to stay in the bore, and subsequent bullets and deposits are fired over it, copper which adheres well to itself, will build up quickly and may be difficult to remove later. So when we break in a barrel, our goal is to get the throat “polished” without allowing copper to build up in the bore. This is the reasoning for the "fire-one-shot-and-clean" procedure.
Every barrel will vary slightly in how many rounds they take to break in For example a chrome moly barrel may take longer to break in than stainless steel because it is more abrasion resistant even though it is a similar hardness. Also chrome moly has a little more of an affinity for copper than stainless steel so it will usually show a little more "color" if you are using a chemical cleaner. (Chrome moly and stainless steel are different materials with some things in common and others different.) Rim Fire barrels can take an extremely long time to break in, sometimes requiring several hundred rounds or more. But cleaning can be lengthened to every 25-50 rounds. The break-in procedure and the cleaning procedure are really the same except for the frequency. Remember the goal is to get or keep the barrel clean while breaking in the throat with bullets being fired over it.
Finally, the best way to tell if the barrel is broken in is to observe the patches; i.e. when the fouling is reduced. This is better than some set number of cycles of "shoot and clean" as many owners report practically no fouling after the first few shots, and more break-in would be pointless. Conversely, if more is required, a set number would not address that either. Besides, cleaning is not a completely benign procedure so it should be done carefully and no more than necessary.
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Sell the gun its bad new when you try to cycle the action fast you will not be able to.
Ive had a few of em and ive never had this problem you speak of. My only dislike of the axis rifle is when chambering a live round the bolt handle does not have a positive down position.
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Sell the gun its bad new when you try to cycle the action fast you will not be able to.
B.S. IMO.

Congrats on the new Savage OP!

Clean the gun & shoot it, it will be fine.
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Old 09-17-2012, 09:49 PM   #7
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Sell the gun its bad new when you try to cycle the action fast you will not be able to.


Hell, lets all get money trees and put them in our back yard. That way we can all own a Surgeon rifle.


+1 on the congrats in getting a new rifle.
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Old 09-18-2012, 08:27 AM   #8
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I've tried various break in methods over the years, but never really saw much improvement unless the barrel had some problems to begin with. Anymore I just shoot them. We all have our opinions, but here's a link to Gail McMillan's thoughts How to Break-in a Barrel
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Old 09-18-2012, 08:38 AM   #9
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congrats. i've bought two savage axis .223's for my twin sons. did not break them in and they shoot fine. im not saying i did the right thing, but they shoot well.
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As an FFL dealer I have sold plenty of them and all my customers are happy with them.
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