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Old 05-19-2008, 02:36 PM   #1
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Bump Firing your AR

i went to the range over the weekend with a buddy of mine and decided to try bump firing while it was extremely cool to watch my little ol Rifle rattle off round after round as though it was a full auto i gotta say i don't think i will be doing any more of it. i started off my range day with 1000 rounds of 5.56 and in less than an hours i had already spent nearly 300 rounds bump firing

it is amazing how fast an AR can go through a 30 round mag sad thing is i can't even say for sure i hit anything other than the berm behind the target sheesh i wish ammo was cheaper.
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Old 05-19-2008, 03:30 PM   #2
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Thats why at the range I only load five to ten rounds at a time if I load a mag full I shoot to fast lol it makes me take my time with each shot and and slows me down some.Then when I am down to my last thirty or so rounds I might load it full and do some rapid fire ten,ten and ten to see how my control is.
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I probably wouldn't bump fire anything after US v Olofson, which is a pretty scary finding that could threaten anyone with a BATFE investigation if your firearm appears to fire more than one round at each pull of the trigger, even if the event is the result of a malfunction.
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I probably wouldn't bump fire anything after US v Olofson, which is a pretty scary finding that could threaten anyone with a BATFE investigation if your firearm appears to fire more than one round at each pull of the trigger, even if the event is the result of a malfunction.
but when bump fired it is one round with each pull of the trigger however the recoil of the rifle making the trigger bounce off my thumb is what makes it appear to be full auto, a bump fire is not a malfunction but rather allowing the recoil to rapidly pull the trigger thus 1 round per trigger pull.
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but when bump fired it is one round with each pull of the trigger however the recoil of the rifle making the trigger bounce off my thumb is what makes it appear to be full auto, a bump fire is not a malfunction but rather allowing the recoil to rapidly pull the trigger thus 1 round per trigger pull.
You know this. I know this. The folks that read this know this. Others that peruse these kinds of web sites and message boards know this.

That doesn't keep me from enjoying a slightly higher level of paranoia than is healthy.
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Other than just being plain pubescent, bump-firing bears no legal jeopardy for the bumper.
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Other than just being plain pubescent, bump-firing bears no legal jeopardy for the bumper.
Unless you get an overzealous BATFE and USAttorney. Mr Olofson was convicted of transferring a machine gun when it malfunctioned on the range, firing more than one shot per trigger pull. He loaned an AR15 to someone, the weapon malfunctioned at a public range, and he was subsequently arrested.

Now if someone simply thinks you have a machine gun, and gets the police involved, and for some reason the ATF gets their hooks in you, how do you think that will go for the average Joe that can't afford the finest legal defense that money can buy?

I suggest that everyone that owns a semi auto rifle reads about this case:

US vs Olofson

Now I know I am making a fair stretch to think that even the ATF knows that bump firing does not a machine gun make, but if someone can have their malfunctioning AR called an illegal machine gun, what could be next? And do you want to be the one named in teh trial as the defendant?

Like I said, paranoid. Maybe not healthy, but I'm not paranoid because my government is fair.
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Remember, current US law does NOT follow common sense and is not "reasonable". Your life can be ruined while the courts try to "do the right thing". You can be dead right or have your bank account drained trying to defend your position. Just because you are right . . . doesn't mean you are safe from the jackbooted thug. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Law is no longer based on morality, law is based on power.

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Bump-firing has absolutely no relation to the Olofson case. To even mention the Olofson case in the same breath with bump-firing is just demonstrative of a complete lack of understanding of legal matters. However, I wouldn't expect a lot of intellectual depth from a bump-firer, anywho!
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Bump-firing has absolutely no relation to the Olofson case. To even mention the Olofson case in the same breath with bump-firing is just demonstrative of a complete lack of understanding of legal matters. However, I wouldn't expect a lot of intellectual depth from a bump-firer, anywho!
Well, on the other hand, your statement may also demonstrate a "complete lack of understanding of" how the BATFE can get it's hooks into everyday, well intentioned, law abiding gun owners.

All the times I have watched someone that is very good at bump firing, I just cannot tell if they are pulling the trigger for every round that is being fired. I am familiar with firearms, i am familiar with the AR 15, but some schmuck that thinks you are firing a full auto weapon can call 911 and mess up what might of otherwise been a fine day.

You folks can, and will, do whatever you want. I hope that all I've done is make you think. Whatever you choose to do is up to you.
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