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bartonmd · 05-18-2008, 05:26 AM

I'm very happy with it (target was at 100 yards)... Put 70 rounds through it yesterday, with no malfunctions. Seems to be a bit of a tack driver. This is just the round I was guessing with. Hornady 75gr. BTHP with 22 grains of H4895 and regular Winchester small rifle primers. Have got some Varget, Rel-15, and a couple others to load up next week.

I will say, though, That was actually my best group. Several of the other groups were like the one you see by the handle of the calipers... 3-4 shots in almost one hole (same zero every time... I've read the "why I like 10 shot groups" post on ARFCOM), then a flier about an inch or inch and a half away (the flier on that bull is right at the crease in the paper in the 8-ring)... Turns out that since I don't do much bench shooting (mostly slinged up high-power), I wasn't concentrating on keeping the same pressure on my shoulder every time, so my zero would change slightly. It also didn't help that the sling swivel (sans sling) was on the sand bag, and with the recoil, I can't say that it was in the same place every time. The good thing is, though, that as it heated up, the zero didn't change in any preceptible way

BTW, it's a MEGA lower, with a J&T Bull Barrel rifle kit (everything but a stripped lower) with a ProMag scope mount and a Bushnell Banner 4-12x40 scope. It's got the stock trigger and a Badger Gen-2 tac-latch. The barrel is a 24" stainless bull barrel. I've got $730 in the rifle as you see it, plus $40 in the mount + $80 in the scope (Natchezss cloesout

)... It was the cheapest way I could see to build it, which is pretty much exactly what I wanted (and I didn't have to worry about headspace or anything as the upper came assembled!)... though, I'll be putting in a trigger at some point, here.. It's not any worse than the Garand or M1A, but it's definately not a match trigger, either.

Mike

**PackerfanXD** · 05-18-2008, 05:32 AM

Nicely done.

slugger6 · 05-18-2008, 05:44 AM

Very nice rifle you have there.

bartonmd · 05-19-2008, 04:57 AM

Thankyouverymuch! I LOVE it!

Mike

Mercmar · 05-19-2008, 05:13 AM

That rifle's obviously a great shooter. It'd be scary to think about how small your groups might be with a better trigger and/or upgraded scope!

bartonmd · 05-19-2008, 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mercmar

That rifle's obviously a great shooter. It'd be scary to think about how small your groups might be with a better trigger and/or upgraded scope!

I'm also interested to see how it goes down.. A better trigger, and more load development, and I should be good to go... We'll see...

Mike

ScottyT · 05-19-2008, 07:18 AM

I had dreams about ARs last night...

My wife's had a suppressor and mine had an M203...

They were good dreams...

ForTehNguyen · 05-19-2008, 07:19 AM

i would recommend the RRA 2 stage trigger, it helps a lot to stabilize your shots. His scope is fine its only 50 yards, as long as he is consistant in trigger pulling and has consistant ammo during the zeroing in of the scope.

bartonmd · 05-19-2008, 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForTehNguyen

i would recommend the RRA 2 stage trigger, it helps a lot to stabilize your shots. His scope is fine its only 50 yards, as long as he is consistant in trigger pulling and has consistant ammo during the zeroing in of the scope.

It's a 50 yard smallbore target, but those groups were at 100 yards.

Actually, the RRA was the one I was looking at... Or the JP one... I'd like to get away with a decent trigger for less than a couple hundred, either way...

I suppose I could do a 24x scope, but eh... This was cheap and general info I found on it, it seems to be about the best one of the cheap scopes. I'm not worried about it... About the only thing a higher $$ scope gives you over this one is possibly more consistant click/minute ratio throughout the whole adjustment range, slightly better zero holding at different zoom levels, only slightly better optics (though, these are already fully-multi-coated), a name brand, a gold ring around the scope, and about $400 less in my wallet.

Mike

Mercmar · 05-19-2008, 07:55 AM

I've heard good things about the RRA triggers. I'm using the JP trigger/hammer combo, as I really wanted a single-stage that felt about the same as my Remmy 700s with Timney triggers. My Bushy pulls at just under 3#, no overtravel, no creep. I like being able to adjust the overtravel and creep.

05-18-2008, 05:26 AM	#1
bartonmd XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Central IN Posts: 190	Got the new AR to the range yesterday... (match report p2) I'm very happy with it (target was at 100 yards)... Put 70 rounds through it yesterday, with no malfunctions. Seems to be a bit of a tack driver. This is just the round I was guessing with. Hornady 75gr. BTHP with 22 grains of H4895 and regular Winchester small rifle primers. Have got some Varget, Rel-15, and a couple others to load up next week. I will say, though, That was actually my best group. Several of the other groups were like the one you see by the handle of the calipers... 3-4 shots in almost one hole (same zero every time... I've read the "why I like 10 shot groups" post on ARFCOM), then a flier about an inch or inch and a half away (the flier on that bull is right at the crease in the paper in the 8-ring)... Turns out that since I don't do much bench shooting (mostly slinged up high-power), I wasn't concentrating on keeping the same pressure on my shoulder every time, so my zero would change slightly. It also didn't help that the sling swivel (sans sling) was on the sand bag, and with the recoil, I can't say that it was in the same place every time. The good thing is, though, that as it heated up, the zero didn't change in any preceptible way BTW, it's a MEGA lower, with a J&T Bull Barrel rifle kit (everything but a stripped lower) with a ProMag scope mount and a Bushnell Banner 4-12x40 scope. It's got the stock trigger and a Badger Gen-2 tac-latch. The barrel is a 24" stainless bull barrel. I've got $730 in the rifle as you see it, plus $40 in the mount + $80 in the scope (Natchezss cloesout )... It was the cheapest way I could see to build it, which is pretty much exactly what I wanted (and I didn't have to worry about headspace or anything as the upper came assembled!)... though, I'll be putting in a trigger at some point, here.. It's not any worse than the Garand or M1A, but it's definately not a match trigger, either. Mike Last edited by bartonmd; 06-02-2008 at 07:25 AM.

05-18-2008, 05:32 AM	#2
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05-18-2008, 05:44 AM	#3
slugger6 XDTalk 20K Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 20,065	Very nice rifle you have there. __________________ "What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us". - Ralph Waldo Emerson

05-19-2008, 07:18 AM	#7
ScottyT XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 636	I had dreams about ARs last night... My wife's had a suppressor and mine had an M203... They were good dreams... __________________ ------------------ XD 45 compact Mosin Nagant M91/30 Remington 870 Express Ruger 10/22 ------------------ "I seek not for power, but to pull it down. I seek not for honor of the world, but for the glory of my God, and the freedom and welfare of my country." - Moroni

05-19-2008, 07:19 AM	#8
ForTehNguyen XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 1,333	i would recommend the RRA 2 stage trigger, it helps a lot to stabilize your shots. His scope is fine its only 50 yards, as long as he is consistant in trigger pulling and has consistant ammo during the zeroing in of the scope. __________________ XD9 Service Black XD9 Subcompact x 2 Kimber Tactical Custom II AR15 16" Midlength Lancaster AK47 Remington 870 12ga Express

05-19-2008, 04:57 AM	#4
bartonmd XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Central IN Posts: 190	Thankyouverymuch! I LOVE it! Mike

05-19-2008, 05:13 AM	#5
Mercmar XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,742	That rifle's obviously a great shooter. It'd be scary to think about how small your groups might be with a better trigger and/or upgraded scope!

05-19-2008, 07:55 AM	#10
Mercmar XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,742	I've heard good things about the RRA triggers. I'm using the JP trigger/hammer combo, as I really wanted a single-stage that felt about the same as my Remmy 700s with Timney triggers. My Bushy pulls at just under 3#, no overtravel, no creep. I like being able to adjust the overtravel and creep.

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