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cookieXD40 · 05-14-2008, 10:07 AM

i bought but haven't shot any Monarch .223 FMJ for the range but heard some where...here or ar15.com that monarchs were bad ammo...what do ya'll recommened??...just shoot the monarch or buy something diff. for the range??

IHasanXD · 05-14-2008, 10:17 AM

i believe the monarch stuff is steal cased. that being said it really is personal beliefs on steal cased ammo, some hate it others are ok with it. i personally will use it for shooting at junk at the river but for accuracy shooting i use federal 5.56

**agalindo** · 05-14-2008, 11:32 AM

I just shot Monarch at my last service rifle match and had my highest score since I started shooting the matches last year.

Deadcenter · 05-14-2008, 12:49 PM

From what I read on the intarweb, Monarch is like Wolf ammo in that it is a bit underpowered.

This quote is from M4Carbine.net, by Grant - a trusted source in my book.
Take with as much salt as you need for palatability.

Quote:

Often times, we see crap ammo run just fine in RRA, DPMS, BM, etc, but will not run in Colt, LMT, ADS, Noveske, BCM, etc. The reason for this is because the first three companies use gas ports around .069. The last four companies generally have gas ports around .063.

The lower tier AR manufacturers ASSume that their customers are going to run the cheapest ammo available so to avoid frequent customer calls about short stroking, they use larger gas ports. The upper tier AR manufacturers ASSume that their customers are going to use mil-spec ball (at worst) and use smaller gas ports so that their weapons are not over gassed.

Makes perfect sense to me, you don't need premium gas in a Geo Metro, and you wouldn't run regular in your Mustang Cobra.

Yeah, I own an LMT, doesn't mean I wouldn't own any other AR. I just wanted a top quality AR for my first, and I only run Mil-Spec ammo in it.

propellerhead · 05-14-2008, 02:01 PM

Monarch in the blue or green box? There's a difference.

**agalindo** · 05-14-2008, 02:03 PM

I shoot blue box when I don't feel like reloading.

fastboy · 05-14-2008, 02:28 PM

At the ammo price these days, I wonder how many are still plinking away with mil ball ammo? Even what used to be the "cheap" ammo is no longer cheap in real dollar term....

cookieXD40 · 05-14-2008, 04:49 PM

its blue box monarch

DaveT · 05-15-2008, 06:11 AM

Has anyone shot it head-to-head with Wolf?

cookieXD40 · 05-16-2008, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by DaveT

Has anyone shot it head-to-head with Wolf?

no but i went through about 160 rounds of blue box monarch yesterday and didn't have one problem...even got me couple of rabbits with it later on yesterday evening

05-14-2008, 10:07 AM	#1
cookieXD40 XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Amarillo, Texas Posts: 236	.223 ammo...range ammo questions i bought but haven't shot any Monarch .223 FMJ for the range but heard some where...here or ar15.com that monarchs were bad ammo...what do ya'll recommened??...just shoot the monarch or buy something diff. for the range?? __________________ check out my myspace... http://www.myspace.com/amafireman *XD 40 4" Service* Stoeger 12 gauge P350 old High Standard 20 Gauge old High Standard 22lr *16"M4 Del-ton rifle upper and a superior arms lower receiver with a center point v*ariable scope! NRA Member *Rules of EMS* 1. If you drop the baby, pick up the baby 2. All bleeding stops, eventually 3. Never go further into the scene than the first dead cop

05-14-2008, 10:17 AM	#2
IHasanXD XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DFW, Texas Posts: 452	i believe the monarch stuff is steal cased. that being said it really is personal beliefs on steal cased ammo, some hate it others are ok with it. i personally will use it for shooting at junk at the river but for accuracy shooting i use federal 5.56 __________________ 4" XD .40S&W OD, CZ 40-P, Springfield 1911 G.I. w/ArmorKote and slim carry grips, Ithica Model 37 12G, Mosin Nagant M44, WASR-10, Mossberg Plinkster .22lr.

05-14-2008, 02:01 PM	#5
propellerhead XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Foat Wurth, TX Posts: 3,232	Monarch in the blue or green box? There's a difference. __________________ XD Trifecta: XD-9 Tactical for practice & IDPA, XD-40 Subcompact for concealed carry, XD-45 Service for home defense. Three purposes, three calibers, three models. One gun.

05-14-2008, 04:49 PM	#8
cookieXD40 XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Amarillo, Texas Posts: 236	its blue box monarch __________________ check out my myspace... http://www.myspace.com/amafireman *XD 40 4" Service* Stoeger 12 gauge P350 old High Standard 20 Gauge old High Standard 22lr *16"M4 Del-ton rifle upper and a superior arms lower receiver with a center point v*ariable scope! NRA Member *Rules of EMS* 1. If you drop the baby, pick up the baby 2. All bleeding stops, eventually 3. Never go further into the scene than the first dead cop

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05-14-2008, 02:28 PM	#7
fastboy XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: MI Posts: 1,249	At the ammo price these days, I wonder how many are still plinking away with mil ball ammo? Even what used to be the "cheap" ammo is no longer cheap in real dollar term....

05-15-2008, 06:11 AM	#9
DaveT XDTalk Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: NE Ohio Posts: 48	Has anyone shot it head-to-head with Wolf?