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propellerhead · 04-28-2008, 06:41 AM

I got a $50 Promag one from Cheaper Than Dirt. It's sitting on the shelf right now since I got a detachable carrying handle. When I get optics later, the Promag will sit behind it, folded. For a plinking rifle, I see no reason to spend $150+ on one.

hardwarz · 04-28-2008, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by xjedix

Does anyone run the ARMS standard #40?? It looks pretty nice sight for the price.

-Derek

I have one and I love it!

Hardwarz

mudfoot · 04-28-2008, 03:47 PM

I run an Arms 40 on 2 of ARs. They are both extremely reliable.

EricCartmann · 04-28-2008, 03:59 PM

Here is my canned answer I wrote awhile back:

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I hear how Troy makes quality BUIS but how can Troy make quality BUIS when they don't make anything? Now the guy who Troy contracts out to make them, he is the one that make quality BUIS's

Here is how the BUIS I have owned stacks up:

Troy (front and rear)- I have these on my Noveske. They are labled Noveske but they are actually Troy's. They are no doubt qualit stuff. They work and they are pretty, but at $260 for the set, they are way over priced. Only reason I got them is because they came with the rifle.

Midwest Industries (front and rear) - I like these a lot. You can get them for $160 for the set from a lot of guys online. I like how the front site is a 3/4 circle, makes it naturally easy to line up with the rear. Also the action is a lot smoother than the Troy as they flip up and down a lot easier. I like these so much that I got 3 sets on 3 different rifles (M4, AR10, XCR).

PRI (front only) - I think this site is an excellent value for $100 (Front only). The circle just makes it naturally easy to use with the rear. Quality is right up there with the best of them. For front site, these are my first choice. I have this on one of my AR-10's.

ARMS 40L (rear only) - I have had this unit for about 3 years now. Back then they were around the same price they are now, wich is about $110. I only used it when I first zero'd. All I can say it is not a bad site, but I don't really like how the flip up action works on this. I have this one mated to my PRI front, and the 2 together seem to work just fine.

Yankee Hill Machine - These go for about $120 for the set and are excellent value. I don't own a set but I have used them before as my buddy has 3 sets of these ;and he is not dissapointed.

Promag (front and rear) - Appearence wise, the front looks like a YHM unit, and the rear looks like a MI unit. I just got mine today so I have not tested it yet. Initial impression is these are actually not bad, not as nice looking as some of the others, but they do appear solid. I had no problem co-witnessing them with the Aimpoint. I have no doubt they will work. Not bad for $45 each, or $90 for the set. I decided to pick up a set to try out after meeting a guy at the range that had a set, and he had nothing but good things to say about them. If you are on a budget, these are the sites for you. I have them my Bushmaster .450 and don't know when I will get rounds for the .450, so looks like it will be awhile before I get to test them out. I am not worried about being haggled by the Troy Kool Aid drinkers how not cool they are.

Remember, they are called backup Iron Sites for a reason. Sometimes I think it is kinda crazy spending $300 on sites you may never use.

xjedix · 04-28-2008, 04:53 PM

Fantastic write up man, thank you for taking the time to post that.

I have narrowed it down to the following: Midwest Industries, GG&G, ARMS and may even consider the Promag after what you had to say. Do you have any experience with GG&G?? They look pretty darn close to the Midwest Industries sights. I found a site that sells brand new GG&G flip up rear for $80 shipped. Any thoughts on GG&G??

GG&G

Thanks,

-Derek

xdmarz · 04-29-2008, 09:51 PM

I have the MI low profile rear sight and I love it. It sits lower than the troy, both apertures are on the same plane, and it locks in place in the up position. My guess is the Troy has a better mounting system though.

Honestly, I'd just get the YHM flip-rear unless you're worried about an optic getting in the way. That's the only reason I got the MI (Want a Millet or similar 1-4x optic)

f0cker · 04-29-2008, 09:55 PM

I like my YHM flip up rear, it fits nicely under the ACOG and is very sturdy when deployed.

04-28-2008, 06:41 AM	#11
propellerhead XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Foat Wurth, TX Posts: 3,471	I got a $50 Promag one from Cheaper Than Dirt. It's sitting on the shelf right now since I got a detachable carrying handle. When I get optics later, the Promag will sit behind it, folded. For a plinking rifle, I see no reason to spend $150+ on one. __________________ XD-9 Tactical for practice & IDPA, XD-40 Subcompact for concealed carry, XD-45 Service for home defense. Three purposes, three calibers, three models. One gun.

04-28-2008, 03:47 PM	#13
mudfoot XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Central Florida Posts: 314	I run an Arms 40 on 2 of ARs. They are both extremely reliable. __________________ If you are citizen who is legally authorized to carry a weapon and you step outside without that weapon, then you become a sheep, pretending that the bad man will not come today. No one can be "on" 24/7, for a lifetime. Everyone needs down time. But if you are authorized to carry a weapon, and you walk outside without it, just take a deep breath, and say this to yourself..."Baa."

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04-28-2008, 03:59 PM	#14
EricCartmann XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: My Mom's Basement Posts: 1,398	Here is my canned answer I wrote awhile back: ------------------------------------------------------------------ I hear how Troy makes quality BUIS but how can Troy make quality BUIS when they don't make anything? Now the guy who Troy contracts out to make them, he is the one that make quality BUIS's Here is how the BUIS I have owned stacks up: Troy (front and rear)- I have these on my Noveske. They are labled Noveske but they are actually Troy's. They are no doubt qualit stuff. They work and they are pretty, but at $260 for the set, they are way over priced. Only reason I got them is because they came with the rifle. Midwest Industries (front and rear) - I like these a lot. You can get them for $160 for the set from a lot of guys online. I like how the front site is a 3/4 circle, makes it naturally easy to line up with the rear. Also the action is a lot smoother than the Troy as they flip up and down a lot easier. I like these so much that I got 3 sets on 3 different rifles (M4, AR10, XCR). PRI (front only) - I think this site is an excellent value for $100 (Front only). The circle just makes it naturally easy to use with the rear. Quality is right up there with the best of them. For front site, these are my first choice. I have this on one of my AR-10's. ARMS 40L (rear only) - I have had this unit for about 3 years now. Back then they were around the same price they are now, wich is about $110. I only used it when I first zero'd. All I can say it is not a bad site, but I don't really like how the flip up action works on this. I have this one mated to my PRI front, and the 2 together seem to work just fine. Yankee Hill Machine - These go for about $120 for the set and are excellent value. I don't own a set but I have used them before as my buddy has 3 sets of these ;and he is not dissapointed. Promag (front and rear) - Appearence wise, the front looks like a YHM unit, and the rear looks like a MI unit. I just got mine today so I have not tested it yet. Initial impression is these are actually not bad, not as nice looking as some of the others, but they do appear solid. I had no problem co-witnessing them with the Aimpoint. I have no doubt they will work. Not bad for $45 each, or $90 for the set. I decided to pick up a set to try out after meeting a guy at the range that had a set, and he had nothing but good things to say about them. If you are on a budget, these are the sites for you. I have them my Bushmaster .450 and don't know when I will get rounds for the .450, so looks like it will be awhile before I get to test them out. I am not worried about being haggled by the Troy Kool Aid drinkers how not cool they are. Remember, they are called backup Iron Sites for a reason. Sometimes I think it is kinda crazy spending $300 on sites you may never use.

04-28-2008, 04:53 PM	#15
xjedix XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Arizona Posts: 603	Fantastic write up man, thank you for taking the time to post that. I have narrowed it down to the following: Midwest Industries, GG&G, ARMS and may even consider the Promag after what you had to say. Do you have any experience with GG&G?? They look pretty darn close to the Midwest Industries sights. I found a site that sells brand new GG&G flip up rear for $80 shipped. Any thoughts on GG&G?? GG&G Thanks, -Derek

04-29-2008, 09:51 PM	#16
xdmarz XDTalk Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 32	I have the MI low profile rear sight and I love it. It sits lower than the troy, both apertures are on the same plane, and it locks in place in the up position. My guess is the Troy has a better mounting system though. Honestly, I'd just get the YHM flip-rear unless you're worried about an optic getting in the way. That's the only reason I got the MI (Want a Millet or similar 1-4x optic)

04-29-2008, 09:55 PM	#17
f0cker XDTalk Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 97	I like my YHM flip up rear, it fits nicely under the ACOG and is very sturdy when deployed.