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dawggs · 03-22-2008, 10:19 AM

the sickness has spread. i am going to build a sbr and know what to get from the atf. but looking for opions on what to use to build one. as far as upper parts, lowers, just get the basic gun started. along with a decent silencer to go with. and i want be able to trust it if i have to use for home defense or at a match.

Fen · 03-23-2008, 10:01 PM

I highly recommend Noveske for SBR AR's. They use polygonal rifling and extended feed ramps with their match chamber on every barrel. One of my coworkers built an SBR with a noveske 7.5'' and their fire breathing pig up front. It's on a DPMS lower/RRA A4 upper and a RRA 2 stage match trigger. I dare say it's the sweetest AR i've ever fired. Next to the full auto ones at least.

dawggs · 03-23-2008, 10:36 PM

ill check that out

03RangerXLT · 03-23-2008, 10:48 PM

I'll help you out with info as much as i can, but i am no expert. i am waiting to find out if my form 1 has been approved. First thing you need to figure out is what your looking for in an SBR. I want a can eventually and want a piston retrofit. Because of this, the minimum I could go was 10.3" The piston system i want to use only works on carbine length gas systems, and most cans (silencers) are only good on 10.3" or longer. So I am going to use a CMMG 10.3" upper. If Noveske did a 10.3"'er, I'd jump on that in a second!

Once I decided on what I wanted, I drew up a trust so I wouldn't have to go thru the fingerprinting and LEO sign off. No problem really for me as a deputy sheriff, but I just don't have the time as i sleep days and work evenings. Once I was done with the trust, i completed a form 1 i downloaded. Then I signed a check for 200 bones and sent it off. Now waiting to hear back. oh yeah, you will need to get your reciever engraved per ATF regs too.

Can't wait to get all my stuff lined up.

rogerxd45 · 03-23-2008, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by 03RangerXLT

I'll help you out with info as much as i can, but i am no expert. i am waiting to find out if my form 1 has been approved. First thing you need to figure out is what your looking for in an SBR. I want a can eventually and want a piston retrofit. Because of this, the minimum I could go was 10.3" The piston system i want to use only works on carbine length gas systems, and most cans (silencers) are only good on 10.3" or longer. So I am going to use a CMMG 10.3" upper. If Noveske did a 10.3"'er, I'd jump on that in a second!

Once I decided on what I wanted, I drew up a trust so I wouldn't have to go thru the fingerprinting and LEO sign off. No problem really for me as a deputy sheriff, but I just don't have the time as i sleep days and work evenings. Once I was done with the trust, i completed a form 1 i downloaded. Then I signed a check for 200 bones and sent it off. Now waiting to hear back. oh yeah, you will need to get your reciever engraved per ATF regs too.

Can't wait to get all my stuff lined up.

what do you need engraved on it? like what does the engraving say?

03RangerXLT · 03-23-2008, 11:40 PM

from what i understand; name, city, state
example in my case (not using my own name) ->
Bob's Revocable Trust, Merietta, GA

03RangerXLT · 03-23-2008, 11:42 PM

fyi: best source is the class 3 forum uner the armory section of AR15.COM
lots of SBR information if you can piece it together

**PackerfanXD** · 03-24-2008, 07:22 AM

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Fen · 03-24-2008, 10:20 AM

umm, you don't need to engrave anything, at least not in New Mexico. SBR is the one type of NFA item that you can undo. A short letter to the ATF and your lower receiver is now a regular rifle so you can replace the barrel back to 16 or longer and sell the gun as usual.

Noveske makes a 10.5'' Noveske Rifleworks, LLC. Precision Battle Weapons.=

I don't see why the extra .2'' would make any dfference.

**nikon777** · 03-24-2008, 10:40 AM

Short barrel rifles are extremely loud, and wear the internal parts much faster than a 16 or 20 inch rifle.

03-22-2008, 10:19 AM	#1
dawggs XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: west central ga. Posts: 118	Ok GUYS INFO ON SBR"S the sickness has spread. i am going to build a sbr and know what to get from the atf. but looking for opions on what to use to build one. as far as upper parts, lowers, just get the basic gun started. along with a decent silencer to go with. and i want be able to trust it if i have to use for home defense or at a match. __________________ STAND FAST RUFF WATERS AHEAD WITH GUN LAWS!!!!!!!! Glock 35 TAURUS PT1911 DPMS M4 GETTING TRICKED OUT DPMS PANTHER BULL 20" HK USP compact

03-23-2008, 10:36 PM	#3
dawggs XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: west central ga. Posts: 118	ill check that out __________________ STAND FAST RUFF WATERS AHEAD WITH GUN LAWS!!!!!!!! Glock 35 TAURUS PT1911 DPMS M4 GETTING TRICKED OUT DPMS PANTHER BULL 20" HK USP compact

03-23-2008, 10:48 PM	#4
03RangerXLT XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Atlanta area, Georgia Posts: 2,126	I'll help you out with info as much as i can, but i am no expert. i am waiting to find out if my form 1 has been approved. First thing you need to figure out is what your looking for in an SBR. I want a can eventually and want a piston retrofit. Because of this, the minimum I could go was 10.3" The piston system i want to use only works on carbine length gas systems, and most cans (silencers) are only good on 10.3" or longer. So I am going to use a CMMG 10.3" upper. If Noveske did a 10.3"'er, I'd jump on that in a second! Once I decided on what I wanted, I drew up a trust so I wouldn't have to go thru the fingerprinting and LEO sign off. No problem really for me as a deputy sheriff, but I just don't have the time as i sleep days and work evenings. Once I was done with the trust, i completed a form 1 i downloaded. Then I signed a check for 200 bones and sent it off. Now waiting to hear back. oh yeah, you will need to get your reciever engraved per ATF regs too. Can't wait to get all my stuff lined up. __________________ -John WAR DAMN EAGLE!!!

03-23-2008, 11:40 PM	#6
03RangerXLT XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Atlanta area, Georgia Posts: 2,126	from what i understand; name, city, state example in my case (not using my own name) -> Bob's Revocable Trust, Merietta, GA __________________ -John WAR DAMN EAGLE!!!

03-23-2008, 11:42 PM	#7
03RangerXLT XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Atlanta area, Georgia Posts: 2,126	fyi: best source is the class 3 forum uner the armory section of AR15.COM lots of SBR information if you can piece it together __________________ -John WAR DAMN EAGLE!!! Last edited by 03RangerXLT : 03-23-2008 at 11:44 PM.

03-23-2008, 10:01 PM	#2
Fen XDTalk Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 58	I highly recommend Noveske for SBR AR's. They use polygonal rifling and extended feed ramps with their match chamber on every barrel. One of my coworkers built an SBR with a noveske 7.5'' and their fire breathing pig up front. It's on a DPMS lower/RRA A4 upper and a RRA 2 stage match trigger. I dare say it's the sweetest AR i've ever fired. Next to the full auto ones at least.

03-24-2008, 07:22 AM	#8
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03-24-2008, 10:20 AM	#9
Fen XDTalk Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 58	umm, you don't need to engrave anything, at least not in New Mexico. SBR is the one type of NFA item that you can undo. A short letter to the ATF and your lower receiver is now a regular rifle so you can replace the barrel back to 16 or longer and sell the gun as usual. Noveske makes a 10.5'' Noveske Rifleworks, LLC. Precision Battle Weapons.= I don't see why the extra .2'' would make any dfference.

03-24-2008, 10:40 AM	#10
nikon777 XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Cleveland, OH. The Danger Zone. Posts: 6,750	Short barrel rifles are extremely loud, and wear the internal parts much faster than a 16 or 20 inch rifle. __________________ Clinging bitterly to guns and religion since 1977.. My Blogspot.

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