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**jamestx10** · 03-11-2008, 05:31 AM

I have a Ciener .22LR conversion kit on order and wonder what ammo you have used with this kit that worked for you? What should I expect from this kit?

cozy338 · 03-11-2008, 05:51 AM

I've used mine in two differnet AR's. The paperwork says use high velocity ammo but I've only used CCI Blazer so far. It works fine in my rifle, but has some fail-to-feed issues in the little dude's AR.

I think this may be due to his only having a few rounds through it. I had several hundred .223 fired in mine before I used the conversion...I forgot to break his in and started him off with the Ciener right away and had some issues. I'm going to put some .223 through his rifle & try the conversion again.

Keep it lubed, just like a normal AR.

I'm going to get some BlackDog Machine mags also. Most seem to say they are more reliable than Ciener's and they are only $30-35 for a 30rd mag.

All in all, I doubt I will use it much in my rifle, but since the kid thinks ammo grows on trees he will give it a good workout!

medicstimpy · 03-11-2008, 05:55 AM

.22LR ammo is picky. Not because of the Cenier kit but because of the nature of the round. Since a box of 50 is relatively cheap, try different ones to see which gives the best results for your AR. Once you find one that works good, then go out and buy it by the brick. A lot of .22's will have a few duds and flyers in a brick these days.

As far as the kit goes, it will fire most everything.

Best results were Lapua match ammo but it's too expensive. For cheaper commonly available ammo, I just use Remington Thunderbolts. They are cheap and fairly good accuracy. More expensive Winchesters and CCI's didn't offer much more accuracy for the $1 more per box however, your AR might be different.

I did notice my remaining 15 year old Tundercruds perform better than the currently available ones. Never had a dud in them old bricks, either. I guess Quality Control went downhill over the years.

John A. · 03-11-2008, 01:56 PM

I've used Federal bulk 550 packs from walmart with no problems.

I've also used some aguila 60 gr SSS (subsonic) rounds, but not enough to recommend them to anyone yet, but what I have shot, I've not had any problems.

I've used CCI---no problems

I've used Winchester bulk packs--a few failures with them, but nothing terrible.

As for the backorder status, good luck with that because there's a lot of folks waiting on them right now. And I'm talking with some major companies like Brownell's and Midwayusa.

For what it's worth, Midwayusa sent out a courtesy email about them back in stock last week, but they sold back out the same evening.

I have a buddy in Arizona that ordered one directly from Ceiner around the middle of December. He still doesn't have it and that's been almost exactly 3 months ago.

Edit to add, 27 round, Full size Black Dog mags ROCK!!!!!!!!

pitbullcrazyinky · 03-12-2008, 07:17 PM

i used the cheap walmart stuff too, federal. I had no problems as long as i only put around 25 rounds in the 30 round clip

scalce · 03-12-2008, 09:28 PM

+3 on the Wally World Federal 550 packs and Black Dog mags

03-11-2008, 05:31 AM	#1
jamestx10 XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Great State of Texas Posts: 263	Ciener .22LR conversion kit I have a Ciener .22LR conversion kit on order and wonder what ammo you have used with this kit that worked for you? What should I expect from this kit? __________________

03-11-2008, 05:55 AM	#3
medicstimpy XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Montreal, Quebecistan in the land of anti's... the dictatorship of Canada Posts: 421	.22LR ammo is picky. Not because of the Cenier kit but because of the nature of the round. Since a box of 50 is relatively cheap, try different ones to see which gives the best results for your AR. Once you find one that works good, then go out and buy it by the brick. A lot of .22's will have a few duds and flyers in a brick these days. As far as the kit goes, it will fire most everything. Best results were Lapua match ammo but it's too expensive. For cheaper commonly available ammo, I just use Remington Thunderbolts. They are cheap and fairly good accuracy. More expensive Winchesters and CCI's didn't offer much more accuracy for the $1 more per box however, your AR might be different. I did notice my remaining 15 year old Tundercruds perform better than the currently available ones. Never had a dud in them old bricks, either. I guess Quality Control went downhill over the years. __________________ Springfield Armory: 1911 Loaded SS (x2), XD9-TAC & XD45-TAC AR-15: Armalite .223, RockRiverArms 9mm Ruger: Mark III, 10/22 S&W: 686 Tokarev: 1942 Soviet TT33, 1958 Hungarian TT-58 Tokagypt, 1954 .22 Polish Sportowy Norchinko: M14S (x2) Yugo: M48 Mauser, M59/66 SKS Desert Chicken 44Magnum Levers: Win '94 1962 (unfired) & 1958 in 30-30 Taurus: 455 Tracker... 45ACP wheel gun... WAY KEWL If GUNS kill people then spoons made Rosie O'Donnell fat

03-11-2008, 01:56 PM	#4
John A. XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: KY Posts: 507	I've used Federal bulk 550 packs from walmart with no problems. I've also used some aguila 60 gr SSS (subsonic) rounds, but not enough to recommend them to anyone yet, but what I have shot, I've not had any problems. I've used CCI---no problems I've used Winchester bulk packs--a few failures with them, but nothing terrible. As for the backorder status, good luck with that because there's a lot of folks waiting on them right now. And I'm talking with some major companies like Brownell's and Midwayusa. For what it's worth, Midwayusa sent out a courtesy email about them back in stock last week, but they sold back out the same evening. I have a buddy in Arizona that ordered one directly from Ceiner around the middle of December. He still doesn't have it and that's been almost exactly 3 months ago. Edit to add, 27 round, Full size Black Dog mags ROCK!!!!!!!! __________________ "The 2nd Amendment wasn't adopted into the Constitution because the authors liked guns or the destruction they could cause, but to give ordinary citizens the ability to protect themselves and their family and to take up arms against anyone in a governmental position who tried to deny those fundamental and God given rights." Ecclesiastes 3: 1-8 Last edited by John A.; 03-11-2008 at 02:16 PM.

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03-11-2008, 05:51 AM	#2
cozy338 XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 126	I've used mine in two differnet AR's. The paperwork says use high velocity ammo but I've only used CCI Blazer so far. It works fine in my rifle, but has some fail-to-feed issues in the little dude's AR. I think this may be due to his only having a few rounds through it. I had several hundred .223 fired in mine before I used the conversion...I forgot to break his in and started him off with the Ciener right away and had some issues. I'm going to put some .223 through his rifle & try the conversion again. Keep it lubed, just like a normal AR. I'm going to get some BlackDog Machine mags also. Most seem to say they are more reliable than Ciener's and they are only $30-35 for a 30rd mag. All in all, I doubt I will use it much in my rifle, but since the kid thinks ammo grows on trees he will give it a good workout!

03-12-2008, 07:17 PM	#5
pitbullcrazyinky XDTalk Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Louisville, Kentucky Posts: 84	i used the cheap walmart stuff too, federal. I had no problems as long as i only put around 25 rounds in the 30 round clip

03-12-2008, 09:28 PM	#6
scalce XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Upstate SC Posts: 1,415	+3 on the Wally World Federal 550 packs and Black Dog mags