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dave_in_delaware · 02-27-2008, 07:14 PM

Well, after 2.5 years of thinking, researching, reading, comparing, dreaming, drooling, etc... I think I've finally made up my mind as to WHAT I want, and WHERE to get it (now it's just a matter of getting the $$$ - I hope I get a tax refund this year!!). I've "compromised" in between a 16" basic CQC rifle and a 20" rifle (which I originally wanted).

Special thanks to: Jerrell Wise and his wonderfully helpful "AR-15 101" thread, his helpful PM's to me, and his patience for dealing w/ all my questions. Your help was greatly appreciated, Sir!!!

I've decided on:

New 18" SPR Upper w/Mid Length Gas

New 18" Special Purpose Rifle upper. This upper is based on our M18 multi-role barrel and comes with mid-length handguards, mid-length sight radius, and is complete with bolt, carrier and charging handle. CMMG semi auto bolt carriers have the shrouded firing pin to protect against hammer wear. Upper receivers are "T" marked and include extended feed ramp cuts. Features include medium contour barrel, 11 degree recessed target crown, mid-length gas system, chrome-lined 5.56mm chamber and bore, 1/8 twist, parkerizing under “F” marked forged front sight base and magnetic particle testing on every barrel. Barrel is marked CMMG MPC 5.56 NATO 1/8.

A3 flat top receiver
Full-auto Carrier
Standard bolt Group
Standard charging handle
Anodized Ramps
Round forward assist
no rear sight (will purchase later)
Standard A2 flash hider

This will be attached to:

CMMG Semi-Auto Lower Receiver w/Internals and Stock

CMMG, Inc MOD4SA semi-auto AR15 forged lower receiver w/internal parts and stock. Lower is mil spec and uses standard take-down and fire control pins. Receiver is mil-spec hard coat anodized aircraft grade 7075 T6 aluminum and is Teflon coated for added durability and color consistency. Internals are semi-auto mil-spec. Receivers are RDIAS/RLL compatible.

Standard Trigger
Gapper and Accu-Wedge
Standard Trigger Guard
Standard Buffer
5-position ribbed M4 stock w/ mil-spec tube

So, there ya have it. I'll be buying the upper and lower separately (different days - not a complete rifle), as suggested by jwise. Total price, including shipping: $822.80

What do you think? Does it sound good?

Also, does anyone else have a CMMG AR-15?? What are your thoughts, experiences, opinions on them?

Thanks for any input!

[Future additions: some sort of flip-up rear sight (BUIS), and an EOTech].

**mvician** · 02-27-2008, 07:23 PM

I'd buy a BUIS at the time you purchase the upper

How else would you be able to shoot it without a rear sight ?

Looks like a good setup.

dave_in_delaware · 02-27-2008, 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mvician

... How else would you be able to shoot it without a rear sight?

Thanks.

Well, since it's a flat top, and an EOTech is a way-off-in-the-future purchase, I was thinking about throwing my 8.5-25x44AO Mil-dot Tactical scope on it for a test drive...

Good idea on the BUIS at time of purchase. I'll toss in one of the BUIS options so I don't have to worry about it later.

dave_in_delaware · 03-07-2008, 08:11 AM

Wow. One response... Dropped to page 3.... I guess it's not that interesting.....

SpringfieldXD.40 · 03-07-2008, 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dave_in_delaware

Thanks.

Well, since it's a flat top, and an EOTech is a way-off-in-the-future purchase, I was thinking about throwing my 8.5-25x44AO Mil-dot Tactical scope on it for a test drive...

Good idea on the BUIS at time of purchase. I'll toss in one of the BUIS options so I don't have to worry about it later.

Congrats on finding your perfect rifle, Dave...Definitely get the BUIS at time of purchase...learn to use the irons before you mess with optics....

RyanH · 03-07-2008, 11:31 AM

I have a CMMG light-weight upper and it's been top notch. I originally bought it for a carbine I put together for my wife but I shoot it quite a bid too.

fishngrits · 03-07-2008, 09:46 PM

For BUIS, look at the Troy or MI. I have one of each, and they're both great. A lot of people like the ARMS #40, but I don't like the spring loaded action. Seems kinda easy to break, IMO.

Get a Magpul CTR stock, too. Best collapsible stock on the market. Looks like you'll have a fine rifle.

Krackels · 03-08-2008, 05:29 AM

If the total price of both the upper and lower is $822 then that's a pretty good deal.

I'd suggest getting the BUIS at least at the same time as you get the upper so you can shoot it.

If you don't mind having a mismatched upper and lower you can save yourself a few bucks by using another brand complete lower. Ameetec complete lowers for $235 and occasionally you can find complete m4 lowers for $200

ichy_trigger · 03-08-2008, 05:53 AM

You know when I first started reasing, I thought that an 18" rifle would be perfect for you and then I see thats what you selected. Ima member of a predator hunting forum and the guys seem to love AR's for coyote rifles. Seems alot of them are moving to the 18" guns due to excessive noice from a 16" gun and then the extra weight of a 20" gun. 18" seems to be a great compromise for something used for short range as well as long range work, without the added bulk.

Post pics when its all done.

akmjolnir · 03-08-2008, 05:27 PM

Rifle looks good. I'm looking to get some parts from CMMG to make a M16a4 clone. Anyways...

Why did you go with the full-auto bolt carrier group? Any restrictions that go with it? And why did order the upper and lower at different times?

thanks

02-27-2008, 07:14 PM	#1
dave_in_delaware XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Wilmington, DE Posts: 6,108	I think I've finally decided!! Well, after 2.5 years of thinking, researching, reading, comparing, dreaming, drooling, etc... I think I've finally made up my mind as to WHAT I want, and WHERE to get it (now it's just a matter of getting the $$$ - I hope I get a tax refund this year!!). I've "compromised" in between a 16" basic CQC rifle and a 20" rifle (which I originally wanted). Special thanks to: Jerrell Wise and his wonderfully helpful "AR-15 101" thread, his helpful PM's to me, and his patience for dealing w/ all my questions. Your help was greatly appreciated, Sir!!! I've decided on: New 18" SPR Upper w/Mid Length Gas New 18" Special Purpose Rifle upper. This upper is based on our M18 multi-role barrel and comes with mid-length handguards, mid-length sight radius, and is complete with bolt, carrier and charging handle. CMMG semi auto bolt carriers have the shrouded firing pin to protect against hammer wear. Upper receivers are "T" marked and include extended feed ramp cuts. Features include medium contour barrel, 11 degree recessed target crown, mid-length gas system, chrome-lined 5.56mm chamber and bore, 1/8 twist, parkerizing under “F” marked forged front sight base and magnetic particle testing on every barrel. Barrel is marked CMMG MPC 5.56 NATO 1/8. A3 flat top receiver Full-auto Carrier Standard bolt Group Standard charging handle Anodized Ramps Round forward assist no rear sight (will purchase later) Standard A2 flash hider This will be attached to: CMMG Semi-Auto Lower Receiver w/Internals and Stock CMMG, Inc MOD4SA semi-auto AR15 forged lower receiver w/internal parts and stock. Lower is mil spec and uses standard take-down and fire control pins. Receiver is mil-spec hard coat anodized aircraft grade 7075 T6 aluminum and is Teflon coated for added durability and color consistency. Internals are semi-auto mil-spec. Receivers are RDIAS/RLL compatible. Standard Trigger Gapper and Accu-Wedge Standard Trigger Guard Standard Buffer 5-position ribbed M4 stock w/ mil-spec tube So, there ya have it. I'll be buying the upper and lower separately (different days - not a complete rifle), as suggested by jwise. Total price, including shipping: $822.80 What do you think? Does it sound good? Also, does anyone else have a CMMG AR-15?? What are your thoughts, experiences, opinions on them? Thanks for any input! [Future additions: some sort of flip-up rear sight (BUIS), and an EOTech]. __________________ Dave Daily carry = XD-9 service in a Blackhawk CQC SERPA holster, a Spyderco Native, and a Streamlight Scorpion. "Everything matters... unless it's antimatter." “A person has the right to keep and bear arms for the defense of self, family, home and State, and for hunting and recreational use.” [Delaware Constitution, Article I, § 20 Right to keep and bear arms]

02-27-2008, 07:23 PM	#2
mvician XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 2,878	I'd buy a BUIS at the time you purchase the upper How else would you be able to shoot it without a rear sight ? Looks like a good setup. __________________ AR15s...ya I've built more than a few http://www.xdtalk.com/forums/ar-talk...ar-family.html

03-07-2008, 09:46 PM	#7
fishngrits XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: The Great State of Louisiana Posts: 342	For BUIS, look at the Troy or MI. I have one of each, and they're both great. A lot of people like the ARMS #40, but I don't like the spring loaded action. Seems kinda easy to break, IMO. Get a Magpul CTR stock, too. Best collapsible stock on the market. Looks like you'll have a fine rifle. __________________ I'm The Walking Dude...

03-08-2008, 05:29 AM	#8
Krackels XDTalk 15K Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Southeastern PA Posts: 19,017 Blog Entries: 5	If the total price of both the upper and lower is $822 then that's a pretty good deal. I'd suggest getting the BUIS at least at the same time as you get the upper so you can shoot it. If you don't mind having a mismatched upper and lower you can save yourself a few bucks by using another brand complete lower. Ameetec complete lowers for $235 and occasionally you can find complete m4 lowers for $200 __________________ "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." --Benjamin Franklin America's Third Parties --- Duping the Foolish and Idealistic since 1832. PA Roll Call .................... My Blog

03-08-2008, 05:53 AM	#9
ichy_trigger XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 7,532	You know when I first started reasing, I thought that an 18" rifle would be perfect for you and then I see thats what you selected. Ima member of a predator hunting forum and the guys seem to love AR's for coyote rifles. Seems alot of them are moving to the 18" guns due to excessive noice from a 16" gun and then the extra weight of a 20" gun. 18" seems to be a great compromise for something used for short range as well as long range work, without the added bulk. Post pics when its all done. __________________ "The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." http://militarysignatures.com/signatures/member2645.png

03-07-2008, 08:11 AM	#4
dave_in_delaware XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Wilmington, DE Posts: 6,108	Wow. One response... Dropped to page 3.... I guess it's not that interesting..... __________________ Dave Daily carry = XD-9 service in a Blackhawk CQC SERPA holster, a Spyderco Native, and a Streamlight Scorpion. "Everything matters... unless it's antimatter." “A person has the right to keep and bear arms for the defense of self, family, home and State, and for hunting and recreational use.” [Delaware Constitution, Article I, § 20 Right to keep and bear arms]

03-07-2008, 11:31 AM	#6
RyanH XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: DFW, Texas Posts: 215	I have a CMMG light-weight upper and it's been top notch. I originally bought it for a carbine I put together for my wife but I shoot it quite a bid too.

03-08-2008, 05:27 PM	#10
akmjolnir XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 388	Rifle looks good. I'm looking to get some parts from CMMG to make a M16a4 clone. Anyways... Why did you go with the full-auto bolt carrier group? Any restrictions that go with it? And why did order the upper and lower at different times? thanks __________________ "The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right." 1833- 2nd AABN USMC '02-'06 XD .40 SC M16A4 clone

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