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bigun · 11-23-2007, 12:33 AM

With some of the new Barnes heavies I would. Its all about shot placement, people hunt deer with .357 Mags all the time so why not the .223 puts down more FPE than a .44 mag.

leeindy · 11-23-2007, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by devilslayer

i could kill a deer with a butter knife and rosie odonalds new book if i reallty thought about it but doesnt mean its a great idea..lol

ahahhahahhahah

im gonna steal that

Tomcat088 · 11-23-2007, 12:59 AM

It is legal to hunt all game in the state of Texas with semi auto's. The .223 is also a legal caliber to hunt deer with in Texas. You can do it, but as others have said, it is NOT the optimum cartridge for deer hunting. Just so you know, there are manufacturers out there who are producing the AR-15 platform in hunting cartridges for the exact reasons that you're talking about, alot of people like the platform. You CAN purchase AR's in .243, which is a great deer cartridge. You can also purchase what some people refer to as AR-10's, which is a .308 that will also do the job nicely. As others have said, you can kill deer with a .223, but you have to be using the right bullet (not varmint rounds but rounds for thicker skinned animals) and you must place the shot VERY precisely.

I figured that I would include a couple of links to rifles that are better suited to deer hunting built on the AR platform. Please look at other manufacturers beause I'm sure there are others that produce these calibers, this is just something to give you some ideas if you really like the AR platform. Remember that you could also always get a different upper and have 1.5 rifles, where you can switch calibers if you like the .223. Hope this helps and please be humane, if you choose the .223 please don't use some surplus fmj ammo to hunt deer with.

http://www.dpmsinc.com/firearms/firearm.aspx?id=23 <<.243 AR
http://www.dpmsinc.com/firearms/category.aspx?id=8 << .260 AR
http://www.dpmsinc.com/firearms/category.aspx?id=9 << .308 AR
http://www.rockriverarms.com/Catlist.cfm?Category=05 << RRA's .308's, just click the links to view some of the rifles.

Remington is supposed to be coming out with a camo AR that will be designated as the R-15. I have heard rumors that it is supposedly a bushmaster AR that has the Remington logo and some camouflage on it. I'm not sure if it will come in any other calibers besides .223.

http://www.bushmaster.com/catalog_xm...MS20FPRED8.asp <<Bushmaster in camo, but I believe it only comes in .223

I have heard that the .243 AR's are actually AR-10's chambered in .243 because of the different bolt face size. AR-10's don't usually have quite the same universal sizes of parts that AR-15's do, so it's something to consider if you wanted to customize it more or build one from different parts from different manufacturers. Alot of people would recommend that if you are going to an AR-10 platform, just go with the .308 because it is such a soft recoiling, heavy bullet shooting, consistent cartridge. If you wanted to go crazy, DPMS also makes a rifle in the .300 SAUM (short action ulta mag) which will definately work for deer, lol, but it has a bit more recoil than the .308. Hope this helps.

ScottyPotty · 11-23-2007, 04:27 AM

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I have heard that the .243 AR's are actually AR-10's chambered in .243 because of the different bolt face size.

The .243 was created by necking down the .308 case for a .243 bullet.

(I think) the AR - 243 is an AR-10 with a smaller (.243) barrel. I think they use the same bolt because the case size is the same.

bigun · 11-23-2007, 04:29 AM

.260 Rem is also available. A little more knock down power than the .243 without the recoil of the .308 6.5's rock no matter what the case size.

AKpredator · 11-23-2007, 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by leeindy

ahahhahahhahah

im gonna steal that

I figured you would... seeing how your read her books.

leeindy · 11-23-2007, 04:58 AM

lame joke. go back to bed and come back with something better

ScottyPotty · 11-23-2007, 09:36 AM

I thought it was funny

**nsnate02** · 11-23-2007, 02:05 PM

My wife's Grandfather (who lives in the woods of southern Arkansas) usually uses a .270 BAR, but he told me today that he has killed more deer with a .22 than anything else. He also said it was the best hunting rifle he owned.

ScottyPotty · 11-23-2007, 03:02 PM

.270 is a great deer cartridge. - My grandpa used to us a .22lr single shot rifle to kill his cows. Sometimes it took 1 shot sometimes more.

11-23-2007, 12:33 AM	#11
bigun XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Southern Iowa Posts: 3,075	With some of the new Barnes heavies I would. Its all about shot placement, people hunt deer with .357 Mags all the time so why not the .223 puts down more FPE than a .44 mag. __________________ The second ammendment is the ammendment that protects all of the others.

11-23-2007, 12:59 AM	#13
Tomcat088 XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Lubbock, Tx Posts: 688	It is legal to hunt all game in the state of Texas with semi auto's. The .223 is also a legal caliber to hunt deer with in Texas. You can do it, but as others have said, it is NOT the optimum cartridge for deer hunting. Just so you know, there are manufacturers out there who are producing the AR-15 platform in hunting cartridges for the exact reasons that you're talking about, alot of people like the platform. You CAN purchase AR's in .243, which is a great deer cartridge. You can also purchase what some people refer to as AR-10's, which is a .308 that will also do the job nicely. As others have said, you can kill deer with a .223, but you have to be using the right bullet (not varmint rounds but rounds for thicker skinned animals) and you must place the shot VERY precisely. I figured that I would include a couple of links to rifles that are better suited to deer hunting built on the AR platform. Please look at other manufacturers beause I'm sure there are others that produce these calibers, this is just something to give you some ideas if you really like the AR platform. Remember that you could also always get a different upper and have 1.5 rifles, where you can switch calibers if you like the .223. Hope this helps and please be humane, if you choose the .223 please don't use some surplus fmj ammo to hunt deer with. http://www.dpmsinc.com/firearms/firearm.aspx?id=23 <<.243 AR http://www.dpmsinc.com/firearms/category.aspx?id=8 << .260 AR http://www.dpmsinc.com/firearms/category.aspx?id=9 << .308 AR http://www.rockriverarms.com/Catlist.cfm?Category=05 << RRA's .308's, just click the links to view some of the rifles. Remington is supposed to be coming out with a camo AR that will be designated as the R-15. I have heard rumors that it is supposedly a bushmaster AR that has the Remington logo and some camouflage on it. I'm not sure if it will come in any other calibers besides .223. http://www.bushmaster.com/catalog_xm...MS20FPRED8.asp <<Bushmaster in camo, but I believe it only comes in .223 I have heard that the .243 AR's are actually AR-10's chambered in .243 because of the different bolt face size. AR-10's don't usually have quite the same universal sizes of parts that AR-15's do, so it's something to consider if you wanted to customize it more or build one from different parts from different manufacturers. Alot of people would recommend that if you are going to an AR-10 platform, just go with the .308 because it is such a soft recoiling, heavy bullet shooting, consistent cartridge. If you wanted to go crazy, DPMS also makes a rifle in the .300 SAUM (short action ulta mag) which will definately work for deer, lol, but it has a bit more recoil than the .308. Hope this helps. Last edited by Tomcat088; 11-23-2007 at 01:04 AM.

11-23-2007, 04:29 AM	#15
bigun XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Southern Iowa Posts: 3,075	.260 Rem is also available. A little more knock down power than the .243 without the recoil of the .308 6.5's rock no matter what the case size. __________________ The second ammendment is the ammendment that protects all of the others.

11-23-2007, 04:58 AM	#17
leeindy XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: montana Posts: 2,892	lame joke. go back to bed and come back with something better __________________ USAF F-15 Attack Control Specialist / Range Officer / Defensive Pistol Instructor "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity" Sigmund Freud Anchorage Practical Shooters Club aka ANPRACS ANPRACS Match Videos click here and here USPSA # A-58756 IDPA # A28338 Co-Founder of the OFFICIAL XDtalk Competition League Another good gun forum http://www.nationalgunforum.com

11-23-2007, 09:36 AM	#18
ScottyPotty XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Akron Area Ohio Posts: 706	I thought it was funny __________________ My XD's XD9 Tactical XD40 Sub Compact XD40 Service You know, this crap happens with in-breeding. You can only hope the unfortunate, screwed up love child would take themselves out of the gene pool when they discover electrical outlets and butter knives or start huffing paint when they're 7 or 8 but every once in a while a truly magnificent specimen makes it to adulthood to display for the world just how freaking stupid they really are.

11-23-2007, 02:05 PM	#19
nsnate02 XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,077	My wife's Grandfather (who lives in the woods of southern Arkansas) usually uses a .270 BAR, but he told me today that he has killed more deer with a .22 than anything else. He also said it was the best hunting rifle he owned. __________________ "It is better to be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt." *Abraham Lincoln*

11-23-2007, 03:02 PM	#20
ScottyPotty XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Akron Area Ohio Posts: 706	.270 is a great deer cartridge. - My grandpa used to us a .22lr single shot rifle to kill his cows. Sometimes it took 1 shot sometimes more. __________________ My XD's XD9 Tactical XD40 Sub Compact XD40 Service You know, this crap happens with in-breeding. You can only hope the unfortunate, screwed up love child would take themselves out of the gene pool when they discover electrical outlets and butter knives or start huffing paint when they're 7 or 8 but every once in a while a truly magnificent specimen makes it to adulthood to display for the world just how freaking stupid they really are.

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