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rogerxd45 · 11-16-2007, 12:59 PM

ok well i found this and i just wanted to see what you guys thought about it. personally i think its a pretty cool idea allthough i dont have a problem with my current system
http://www.aresdefense.com/product.html

scalce · 11-16-2007, 01:46 PM

This company has one but it is not a drop in.

You need to send it to them.

http://www.primaryweapons.com/store/pc/home.asp

I bet we are going to start seeing more retrofit piston assemblies.

**mvician** · 11-16-2007, 03:26 PM

the AR has been going for almost 50 yrs without being piston driven

aiformula · 11-17-2007, 03:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mvician

the AR has been going for almost 50 yrs without being piston driven

That's like the argument "well, rifles have been muzzle stuffers for centuries w/o being repeaters." You're denying a significant improvement in reliability and function? Yes the piston uppers throw some weird bbl harmonics in the equation and accuracy may suffer slightly, but the reliability is what most folks are after.

**PackerfanXD** · 11-17-2007, 07:42 AM

I can't wait until my M6A2 gets here...

**mvician** · 11-17-2007, 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mvician

the AR has been going for almost 50 yrs without being piston driven

Quote:

Originally Posted by aiformula

That's like the argument "well, rifles have been muzzle stuffers for centuries w/o being repeaters." You're denying a significant improvement in reliability and function? Yes the piston uppers throw some weird bbl harmonics in the equation and accuracy may suffer slightly, but the reliability is what most folks are after.

Did I say I wasn't for improvements ? Nope. But IMHO it no longer is an AR15, but a hybrid.

The OP wanted to know what "you guys thought", so I said what I thought

rogerxd45 · 11-17-2007, 07:59 AM

after more and more of these are made i will think about getting one but i bet these early versions have some problems.
we will see alot of these i bet the company i posted is backordered and wont take any more orders till these are filled so that goes to show that even these early versions are very popular

**eric_t12** · 11-17-2007, 10:58 AM

i like mine, but its a factory bushmaster. not a retrofit

Polymerhead · 11-17-2007, 12:38 PM

I'd be more interested if you didn't have to use proprietary handguards. I'm sure their custom railed handguard won't be cheap.

**eric_t12** · 11-17-2007, 02:16 PM

do they need proprietary handguards?

i thought the guys at Leitner-Weise made some that didn't need proprietary guards, only a different gas system, and B. Carrier, (maybe not even the latter)...

i know my bushy is totally different. its got a different gas block/piston housing to accommodate the system, instead of using a "captured-Spring/rod" type conversion, like i am sure LWRC uses on theirs.

i've heard good reviews about the Leitner-Weise though, you should check them out. forgive me for not giving a link, my google fu is vurrrry tired out today.

11-16-2007, 12:59 PM	#1
rogerxd45 XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: boise ID (its boy-see, not boy-z) Posts: 3,592	ar-15 piston conversion ok well i found this and i just wanted to see what you guys thought about it. personally i think its a pretty cool idea allthough i dont have a problem with my current system http://www.aresdefense.com/product.html

11-16-2007, 03:26 PM	#3
mvician XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 2,853	the AR has been going for almost 50 yrs without being piston driven __________________ AR15s...ya I've built more than a few http://www.xdtalk.com/forums/ar-talk...ar-family.html

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11-17-2007, 12:38 PM	#9
Polymerhead XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: MO, USA Posts: 1,402	I'd be more interested if you didn't have to use proprietary handguards. I'm sure their custom railed handguard won't be cheap. __________________ No alarms and no surprises, please.

11-16-2007, 01:46 PM	#2
scalce XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Upstate SC Posts: 1,415	This company has one but it is not a drop in. You need to send it to them. http://www.primaryweapons.com/store/pc/home.asp I bet we are going to start seeing more retrofit piston assemblies.

11-17-2007, 07:59 AM	#7
rogerxd45 XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: boise ID (its boy-see, not boy-z) Posts: 3,592	after more and more of these are made i will think about getting one but i bet these early versions have some problems. we will see alot of these i bet the company i posted is backordered and wont take any more orders till these are filled so that goes to show that even these early versions are very popular

11-17-2007, 02:16 PM	#10
eric_t12 XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: SD Posts: 3,662	do they need proprietary handguards? i thought the guys at Leitner-Weise made some that didn't need proprietary guards, only a different gas system, and B. Carrier, (maybe not even the latter)... i know my bushy is totally different. its got a different gas block/piston housing to accommodate the system, instead of using a "captured-Spring/rod" type conversion, like i am sure LWRC uses on theirs. i've heard good reviews about the Leitner-Weise though, you should check them out. forgive me for not giving a link, my google fu is vurrrry tired out today. __________________ FBI: Gun Owners are Potential Terrorists Our Economic Future: GAO 21st Century Challenges The Police Have No Duty To Protect You VFW Life Member GOA Life Member "There are lots of problems, but if you destroy the dollar, you're going to destroy a worldwide economy, and that's what we're doing." Ron Paul - Speech on the house floor 29SEP2008 opposing the reworked economic 'rescue' plan

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