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fishngrits · 11-12-2007, 03:18 PM

DPMS is known for substandard parts kits with missing/out-of-spec parts, so I wouldn't purchase a whole rifle from them, especially at that price. For that money, you could get an RRA Entry Tactical with a nice two-stage trigger, or a Bushmaster, or anything along those lines, short of maybe an LMT or Colt. DPMS is a half step above Olympic in terms of quality, which is to say, poor.

T.J. · 11-12-2007, 04:59 PM

pick up a stripped DMPS lower, get a stag LPK and buy a del-ton M4 and add the rails and pick your furniture you can spend as little as $600 to as much as you want to spend.

Del ton has a nice upper for around $400 including the bolt and bolt carrier.

the only part that will need to be transfered is the stripped lower

Badshot · 11-12-2007, 05:21 PM

Or just get a CMMG special for $550 ..

ping3y3 · 11-12-2007, 06:59 PM

ok..so a complete rifle from DPMS doesn't seem like the best way...how about some feed back on STAG...where do you guys think they rate?? also i am open to a build..just not really sure how to go about it or where to start as far as buying all the components...thanks again for all the help..

**mvician** · 11-12-2007, 07:17 PM

The Chart

jeff221 · 11-12-2007, 07:20 PM

All Hail The Chart!

Badshot · 11-13-2007, 10:02 AM

AAAAAAAGGGGGGG The Chart is back!

IndyMatt · 11-13-2007, 10:57 AM

Stag is a very good manufacturer, I built my AR with a stag lower, part kit, and upper. It is on par with RRA. Some say LMT and Colt are the best but I am not LE or in the military so if it jams, FTE, or FTF I just get the cleaning rod out.

EricCartmann · 11-13-2007, 11:38 AM

$900 for a complete rifle with the goodies.

Rails are worth about $200. 2 Mags that are about $10 each. Cleaning kit worth $10, rifle case worth about $10. So all in all that is $240 in accessories. I also would go for the chrome lined barrel option at an additional $40.

Not a bad price in my book. If you build a rifle with quad rails you could get it about $100-$200 cheaper, but then if you run into problems they will always blame you for not putting it together correctly (even though there is nothing to putting an AR together). So when you buy a complete rifle you are also buying somewhat of a warranty.

11-12-2007, 03:18 PM	#11
fishngrits XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: The Great State of Louisiana Posts: 385	DPMS is known for substandard parts kits with missing/out-of-spec parts, so I wouldn't purchase a whole rifle from them, especially at that price. For that money, you could get an RRA Entry Tactical with a nice two-stage trigger, or a Bushmaster, or anything along those lines, short of maybe an LMT or Colt. DPMS is a half step above Olympic in terms of quality, which is to say, poor. __________________ I'm The Walking Dude...

11-12-2007, 05:21 PM	#13
Badshot XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,433	Or just get a CMMG special for $550 .. __________________ --------------------- Stupidity should should be painful! On AR15's: Learn to use your Iron Sights before you go adding all that extra crap on your gun!

11-12-2007, 07:17 PM	#15
mvician XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: NW Indiana Posts: 3,333	The Chart __________________ AR15s...ya I've built more than a few http://www.xdtalk.com/forums/ar-talk...ar-family.html ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

11-12-2007, 07:20 PM	#16
jeff221 XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Northwest Indiana Posts: 2,364	All Hail The Chart! __________________ Springfield XD40 Sub-Compact Bi-Tone (.40S&W) Springfield XD9 Tactical Black (9mm) Springfield G.I. Milspec Stainless 1911-A1 (.45 ACP) Kimber Raptor II 1911 (.45 ACP) Kel-Tec P-3AT (.380 ACP) Charter Arms "Off Duty" Revolver (.38 Spl) Ruger 22/45 Mark III (.22 LR) Smith&Wesson M&P15A 16in AR-15 (.223/5.56 NATO) BushMaster Carbon-15 (.22 LR) BushMaster XM15 E2S 20in AR-15 (.223/5.56 NATO) Stoeger P350 Tactical Pump Shotgun (12 Gauge) Winchester Black Model98 Canon (10 Gauge)

11-13-2007, 10:02 AM	#17
Badshot XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,433	AAAAAAAGGGGGGG The Chart is back! __________________ --------------------- Stupidity should should be painful! On AR15's: Learn to use your Iron Sights before you go adding all that extra crap on your gun!

11-12-2007, 06:59 PM	#14
ping3y3 XDTalk Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 32	ok..so a complete rifle from DPMS doesn't seem like the best way...how about some feed back on STAG...where do you guys think they rate?? also i am open to a build..just not really sure how to go about it or where to start as far as buying all the components...thanks again for all the help..

11-13-2007, 10:57 AM	#18
IndyMatt XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 619	Stag is a very good manufacturer, I built my AR with a stag lower, part kit, and upper. It is on par with RRA. Some say LMT and Colt are the best but I am not LE or in the military so if it jams, FTE, or FTF I just get the cleaning rod out.

11-13-2007, 11:38 AM	#19
EricCartmann XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: My Mom's Basement Posts: 1,398	$900 for a complete rifle with the goodies. Rails are worth about $200. 2 Mags that are about $10 each. Cleaning kit worth $10, rifle case worth about $10. So all in all that is $240 in accessories. I also would go for the chrome lined barrel option at an additional $40. Not a bad price in my book. If you build a rifle with quad rails you could get it about $100-$200 cheaper, but then if you run into problems they will always blame you for not putting it together correctly (even though there is nothing to putting an AR together). So when you buy a complete rifle you are also buying somewhat of a warranty.

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