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rogerxd45 · 11-03-2007, 10:54 AM

ok thats what i thought. im sure if you tried you could melt one in your gun like how the guy with the ak set is hiandguards on fire. these arnt some cheap knockoffs they are quality mags im sure when they made them they made sure they could withstand normal operation

EricCartmann · 11-03-2007, 11:17 AM

I can't speak for Pmags because I have never tried them, but I do have Pro-Mags for my AK... no problems whatsoever.

This story sounds BS to me. If the dash of a car could hold up to heat, why not PMags?

**mvician** · 11-03-2007, 05:00 PM

Mags in question are the Canadian Thermold mags

Taken from Troy's Mag FAQ

[3-2-2-2] Canadian Thermold 30s
-------
The Canadian military licensed the Thermold design, but did not use Zytel as the polymer, using a less expensive plastic as a substitute.
This was not a wise decision, and the Canadian military had problems as a result. The most famous problem was the feed lips melting when their ARs were fired for extended periods on full auto (especially with blanks), leading the Canadians to dub the magazines "Thermelts". The other common problem was the mags splitting or cracking in cold temperatures or when dropped. After Desert Storm, the Canadian military changed to USGI aluminum mags, which are now standard issue.

http://magfaq.tripod.com/mags2.htm

**jnclement** · 11-03-2007, 05:11 PM

You lost me when you said "a gun in Cabela's...............". You'll never go wrong by ignoring them.

HTOWN stunna · 11-03-2007, 09:16 PM

ive bumped fired with orlites and they never melted

**yocan** · 11-05-2007, 05:46 PM

Ok simple question, are we talking after going through 600 chain fed rounds in a saw, needing ammo and slamming in a polymer mag? If thats the case, yeah I could see that (a reason I don't know anyone going to Iraq with PMags) but umm, did the guy at cabela's think you wanted to send it to Iraq?

My .02
Tim

P.S. why would with blanks make a difference? I would think those would be less hot... guess I don't understand blanks

rogerxd45 · 11-05-2007, 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yocan

Ok simple question, are we talking after going through 600 chain fed rounds in a saw, needing ammo and slamming in a polymer mag? If thats the case, yeah I could see that (a reason I don't know anyone going to Iraq with PMags) but umm, did the guy at cabela's think you wanted to send it to Iraq?

My .02
Tim

P.S. why would with blanks make a difference? I would think those would be less hot... guess I don't understand blanks

he said even slow fire semi auto1 round every second or 2 would melt them

**mvician** · 11-05-2007, 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yocan

Ok simple question, are we talking after going through 600 chain fed rounds in a saw, needing ammo and slamming in a polymer mag? If thats the case, yeah I could see that (a reason I don't know anyone going to Iraq with PMags) but umm, did the guy at cabela's think you wanted to send it to Iraq?

My .02
Tim

P.S. why would with blanks make a difference? I would think those would be less hot... guess I don't understand blanks

Quote:

Originally Posted by mvician

Mags in question are the Canadian Thermold mags

Taken from Troy's Mag FAQ

[3-2-2-2] Canadian Thermold 30s
-------
The Canadian military licensed the Thermold design, but did not use Zytel as the polymer, using a less expensive plastic as a substitute.
This was not a wise decision, and the Canadian military had problems as a result. The most famous problem was the feed lips melting when their ARs were fired for extended periods on full auto (especially with blanks), leading the Canadians to dub the magazines "Thermelts". The other common problem was the mags splitting or cracking in cold temperatures or when dropped. After Desert Storm, the Canadian military changed to USGI aluminum mags, which are now standard issue.

http://magfaq.tripod.com/mags2.htm

Who believes anything a counter person at a chainstore says ?

Only polymer mags that I've heard melting are the ones I stated above...the Canadian Thermolds refered to as Thermelts.

HTOWN stunna · 11-05-2007, 06:09 PM

this reminds me of the salesman at wal mart who told me they were all out of 7.62x39 because all the guys with their AR's bought it up.

**yocan** · 11-05-2007, 06:13 PM

Htown that was amazing thank you kindly I needed a pleasant laugh

11-03-2007, 05:00 PM	#13
mvician XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: NW Indiana Posts: 3,333	Mags in question are the Canadian Thermold mags Taken from Troy's Mag FAQ [3-2-2-2] Canadian Thermold 30s ------- The Canadian military licensed the Thermold design, but did not use Zytel as the polymer, using a less expensive plastic as a substitute. This was not a wise decision, and the Canadian military had problems as a result. The most famous problem was the feed lips melting when their ARs were fired for extended periods on full auto (especially with blanks), leading the Canadians to dub the magazines "Thermelts". The other common problem was the mags splitting or cracking in cold temperatures or when dropped. After Desert Storm, the Canadian military changed to USGI aluminum mags, which are now standard issue. http://magfaq.tripod.com/mags2.htm __________________ AR15s...ya I've built more than a few http://www.xdtalk.com/forums/ar-talk...ar-family.html ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

11-03-2007, 05:11 PM	#14
jnclement XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: West Texas Posts: 2,602	You lost me when you said "a gun in Cabela's...............". You'll never go wrong by ignoring them. __________________ Contrary to what sells magazines, not all of us are, or want to be SpecOps, SEAL, Recon, Delta, CQB, Ninja, firearm-knife-tactical-death-touch instructors.

11-03-2007, 09:16 PM	#15
HTOWN stunna XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alpine Texas Posts: 1,567	ive bumped fired with orlites and they never melted __________________ The world is populated in the main by people who should not exist. - George Bernard Shaw

11-05-2007, 06:09 PM	#19
HTOWN stunna XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Alpine Texas Posts: 1,567	this reminds me of the salesman at wal mart who told me they were all out of 7.62x39 because all the guys with their AR's bought it up. __________________ The world is populated in the main by people who should not exist. - George Bernard Shaw

11-05-2007, 06:13 PM	#20
yocan XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Detroit Posts: 2,276	Htown that was amazing thank you kindly I needed a pleasant laugh __________________ The three requirements for a school shooting. 1 know the floorplan. 2 Know the threats inside the location and response time/entry time for the police 3. Royally screwed up intelligent analytic mind. We need more laws to protect these three rights. Ban guns in schools, it obviously works.

11-03-2007, 10:54 AM	#11
rogerxd45 XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: boise ID (its boy-see, not boy-z) Posts: 3,592	ok thats what i thought. im sure if you tried you could melt one in your gun like how the guy with the ak set is hiandguards on fire. these arnt some cheap knockoffs they are quality mags im sure when they made them they made sure they could withstand normal operation

11-03-2007, 11:17 AM	#12
EricCartmann XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: My Mom's Basement Posts: 1,398	I can't speak for Pmags because I have never tried them, but I do have Pro-Mags for my AK... no problems whatsoever. This story sounds BS to me. If the dash of a car could hold up to heat, why not PMags?

11-05-2007, 05:46 PM	#16
yocan XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Detroit Posts: 2,276	Ok simple question, are we talking after going through 600 chain fed rounds in a saw, needing ammo and slamming in a polymer mag? If thats the case, yeah I could see that (a reason I don't know anyone going to Iraq with PMags) but umm, did the guy at cabela's think you wanted to send it to Iraq? My .02 Tim P.S. why would with blanks make a difference? I would think those would be less hot... guess I don't understand blanks

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