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gsh341 · 10-20-2007, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ArmyGuy45

ok.. so before where the piston is.. how do you clean the gunk that is there?

Have you ever shot and cleaned the M-249 SAW? If you have, you've probably noticed the lack of carbon fouling by the bolt. All the carbon is right near the end of the gas piston and the cleaning of this fouling is pretty basic. I'm sure there are differences between the HK-416 and the SAWs gas piston system, but the concept is very similar.

nra-life-member · 10-20-2007, 02:34 PM

I open these are available in enough supply (for the possible demand) BEFORE Jan 2009..

**einheit 13** · 10-20-2007, 05:14 PM

Its a whole lot too late.....everyone looks away from the AR180, its always had a gas piston, RobArms M96, XCR, Sig (USA) 556, Daewoo, Galil.....

[TASF]Maverick · 10-20-2007, 05:39 PM

Okay. I just have to say, stop with the CS bashing. It was bad 3-4 years ago. It's not anymore.

We have no idea what the price is going to be. Probably somewhere between $1300-$1700 if I had to guess. Is it worth it? Hell if I know, I don't know anything about the weapon first hand.

What I'm excited about, is that this kind of opens the door for perhaps a US production of a G36 and UMP...

The "problem" that the piston driven AR upper solves is that the rifle no longer "sh!ts where it eats".

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Originally Posted by sixgunsblazing

The fact they did indeed, thumb their noses at the civilian market makes it even easier.

Oh, do you mean when the Assault Weapons Ban and Importation of non-Sporting Firearms Ban started?

jetsiphon · 10-20-2007, 07:58 PM

Why wouldn't I just save a few g's and buy a POF?

Alaskapopo · 10-20-2007, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jetsiphon

Why wouldn't I just save a few g's and buy a POF?

That is an option but then you would be getting a battle proven system.
Pat

ArmyGuy45 · 10-20-2007, 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gsh341

Have you ever shot and cleaned the M-249 SAW? If you have, you've probably noticed the lack of carbon fouling by the bolt. All the carbon is right near the end of the gas piston and the cleaning of this fouling is pretty basic. I'm sure there are differences between the HK-416 and the SAWs gas piston system, but the concept is very similar.

i wish.. im MI.. i dont get to shoot the "pretty" ones

Krackels · 10-20-2007, 09:26 PM

There's a surprising amount of money to be made on the civilian market, so I was surprised when they weren't selling to civilians.

Those 417s look sweet! I want one.

**eric_t12** · 10-21-2007, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by devilslayer

and lets not forget the XCR the MASSADA , and the AXR also i believe ,and the scar and bushmaster ,DSA.and the other small companys doing the gas piston. lots of players in the game

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Originally Posted by nikon777

Hell yeah. I want the Masada or the SCAR.

I've got a Bushy Gas piston upper, i love it. fired 25 rounds, consecutive, and the upper receiver was barely warm, carbon fouling mainly on the piston, and handguards. no biggie at all.

i tried at the range with my M16... i needed a witto band-aid...

Nikon - You and I BOTH!

John A. · 10-21-2007, 10:34 AM

I really like the way the Magpul is looking. Very nice. Been saving up for a while now.

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einheit 13 XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Virginia, C.S.A. Posts: 5,905	Its a whole lot too late.....everyone looks away from the AR180, its always had a gas piston, RobArms M96, XCR, Sig (USA) 556, Daewoo, Galil..... __________________ Once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, the third time is enemy action “It is the lack of will power, and not the lack of arms which render us incapable of offering any serious resistance.”

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Krackels XDTalk 15K Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Southeastern PA Posts: 19,588 Blog Entries: 5	There's a surprising amount of money to be made on the civilian market, so I was surprised when they weren't selling to civilians. Those 417s look sweet! I want one. __________________ "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." --Benjamin Franklin PA Roll Call

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John A. XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: KY Posts: 676	I really like the way the Magpul is looking. Very nice. Been saving up for a while now. __________________ "The 2nd Amendment wasn't adopted into the Constitution because the authors liked guns or the destruction they could cause, but to give ordinary citizens the ability to protect themselves and their family and to take up arms against anyone in a governmental position who tried to deny those fundamental and God given rights." Ecclesiastes 3: 1-8

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