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No love for 5.56?
So my FIL gives me a copy of Gun Annual 2008 because he wants me to see an article. So as I'm reading through the issue, I notice two articles written by Charlie Cutshaw. In both articles he wrote, he rips on the 5.56 cartridge as only good for varmint and not well suited as a man-stopper.
I disagree. Your thoughts?
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After seeing some firsthand ballistic gelatin results from 62gr 5.56 & .223 Hollowpoints, I certainly wouldn't want to be the test subject...
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A lot of oold-school people are used seeing the damage caused by battle cartridges like 7.62x51 and 30-06 and then compair that to the 5.56. Me? I think the bottom line is that bullets hurt, and I don't wanna be hit with any caliber. That being said I'd still place myself in the "no love" crowd. While I may not like the idea of being hit with a 5.56, if I needed a rifle to save my life, I'm afraid I still hold anxieties that it would take more shots of the 5.56 than the 7.62x51 to take down an attacker. But, I'm just me. Soldiers usually have other soldiers with them to help with supressive fire; which, to my understanding, is what the 5.56 was made to do.
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There are plenty of veterans who could testify about the stopping power of a 5.56 round. Anyone who was in the military knows it's a good round, I've seen the damage one well-placed round can do. Just my $.02.
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Maybe not everyone in the armed forces loves it, but a great many of them at least. Regardless, I still think your right, it is a good military cartridge.
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just old schoolers that cant get over that the 308 and the 30.06 lost the top spot like the 45 acp did.
the crap reallys going to hit the fan when the top brass decide to go to a new caliber because im sure it will be a "new" possibly smaller round to go with the whole urban combat way of thinking..then we will be posting about how we wished the armed forces had stuck with the 5.56 and is a better manstopper then the new whatever they decide to go with. |
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If I HAD to choose, I would rather get hit by the 5.56 than a 7.62x39.
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Alot of people are always looking for bigger and better. I have shot several coyotes with the .223 and it drops them dead. I know that these are coyotes and not people, but if you ask the varmint crowed, then I should have used a .204 or .22-250 maby even a .243. Many of the magnum cartriges today are overkill, but alot of folks are very interested and infatuated by them. Dead is dead, I love my 5.56!
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I've got a .223 and it's a great varmint gun but it's not the rifle I'd pick up if I knew I needed to take somebody down at 200 meters, or beyond.
I love the government's fetish for designing new cartridges which serve the same role as existing cartridges. The 10mm Auto and the 6.8 come to mind. The fact is we could have taken the 7.62x39, blown the shoulder out a bit, used modern powders, and gotten a 125 grain BT bullet up to about 2700 fps. This would hit harder out at 400-500 yards, where volume fire gets imperfect hits but gets them just the same. That's also about about where the 5.56 becomes a 22 mag FMJ. At 600 the '7.62 American' is still equivalent to a .357 magnum. I don't wanna get hit eith either of them at 600 yards myself- but I can damn sure tell you which one I'd rather NOT get hit with.
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