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rogerxd45 · 09-13-2007, 01:46 PM

http://www.mountsplus.com/miva/merch...-15-HANDGUARDS
i was looking for new handguards for my ar and on this web sight it says "due to a recent court case this item can no longer be sold" i thought that was really odd and was wondering if anybody knows anything about this

Zero · 09-13-2007, 01:47 PM

Interesting. Send them an email asking for specifics? If you do, please post here.

I found they're in FL, I suspected CA at first.

Icey101 · 09-13-2007, 02:10 PM

Troy Trounces Sampson in Lawsuit

Troy Industries wins $505,000 Verdict against Samson Mfg.

June 21, 2007, Boston, Massachusetts.

Today, a Suffolk County Superior Court jury awarded Troy Industries, Inc., of West Springfield, Massachusetts, a $505,000 verdict against Samson Manufacturing Corporation and Scott Samson, individually. The jury found that Samson violated the Confidentiality Agreement it had with Troy and that Samson wrongfully used Troy’s trade secrets and confidential business information. The jury also found that Samson engaged in unfair and deceptive business practices in violation of Massachusetts General Laws, Chapter 93A. The jury’s finding that Samson engaged in unfair and deceptive business practices entitles Troy to an award of its attorney fees and costs.

The trade secrets at issue were for Troy’s ideas, inventions, designs and drawings of the Modular Rail Fore-end, for which Troy was recently issued US Patent No. 7,216,451. Also at issue were Troy’s designs and drawings for the Forward Handgrip and its Scope Mount. These products are Troy’s designs for accessorizing the M16 rifle and carbine used by our military in training and in combat abroad, including the Middle East.

Troy is a designer of military weapons and weapons accessories. Stephen P. Troy, President of Troy Industries said, “This vindicates me. The decision of the jury clearly shows these were my ideas, my designs and my inventions from the very beginning.” Damian R. LaPlaca, of Donovan Hatem LLP, Troy’s lead trial counsel, added, “This means that when you steal somebody’s trade secrets and ideas and try to pass them off as your own, you’ll have to pay.” Troy was also represented at trial by attorneys Sarah K. Willey, Troy’s General Counsel, and Christian G. Samito, and law clerk Emily Coes, each of Donovan Hatem, and was further assisted by patent counsel, Ann Lamport Hammitte, of Lowrie, Lando & Anastasi LLP.

The jury also found against Samson on its claim that Troy breached a purchase order for the machining of the Modular Rail Fore-end, and awarded Samson no damages.

stretch415 · 09-13-2007, 02:12 PM

they got bitch slapped by Troy

Badshot · 09-13-2007, 02:15 PM

Good for Troy!

rogerxd45 · 09-13-2007, 02:42 PM

so it was patent infringment and not that the hand guards violate some assault weapons ban

Zero · 09-13-2007, 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rogerxd45

so it was patent infringment and not that the hand guards violate some assault weapons ban

Sure seems that way. I guess this time the courts worked as they should.

sloopy70 · 09-13-2007, 02:47 PM

If HR 1022 were to pass (not sure if thats over or not yet) then any weapon that has a hand guard on it shotgun or whatever would be banned... Their thinking was that they don't want you to be able to shoot so many rounds that you get the barrel hot...

JonboyJS · 09-13-2007, 07:08 PM

That's what nomex gloves are good for

Slugger · 09-13-2007, 08:56 PM

I roll with the old oven mitt! Old FAL trick hahahahha

Slugger

09-13-2007, 01:46 PM	#1
rogerxd45 XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: boise ID (its boy-see, not boy-z) Posts: 3,592	illegal handguards? http://www.mountsplus.com/miva/merch...-15-HANDGUARDS i was looking for new handguards for my ar and on this web sight it says "due to a recent court case this item can no longer be sold" i thought that was really odd and was wondering if anybody knows anything about this

09-13-2007, 01:47 PM	#2
Zero XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Asheville, NC Posts: 107	Interesting. Send them an email asking for specifics? If you do, please post here. I found they're in FL, I suspected CA at first. __________________ The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. -- Thomas Jefferson

09-13-2007, 02:15 PM	#5
Badshot XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,433	Good for Troy! __________________ --------------------- Stupidity should should be painful! On AR15's: Learn to use your Iron Sights before you go adding all that extra crap on your gun!

09-13-2007, 02:47 PM	#8
sloopy70 XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Southwest Louisiana Posts: 1,148	If HR 1022 were to pass (not sure if thats over or not yet) then any weapon that has a hand guard on it shotgun or whatever would be banned... Their thinking was that they don't want you to be able to shoot so many rounds that you get the barrel hot... __________________ L. J. Joshlin USPSA Range Officer (R.O.) USPSA #A58364 Buckmark UDX Plus Springfield XD-9 10,500 rounds failure free Ithica 12Ga. Ultralight - Gold Trigger Edition Piney Woods Action Shooters sloopy70653@yahoo.com

09-13-2007, 07:08 PM	#9
JonboyJS XDTalk Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Asheville/Trinity, NC Posts: 33	That's what nomex gloves are good for __________________ Jonathan \"Jonboy\" Spencer \"Once a Marine, always a Marine\" XD40 Service...Been carrying it since 2003, excellent weapon.

09-13-2007, 02:10 PM	#3
Icey101 XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 268	Troy Trounces Sampson in Lawsuit Troy Industries wins $505,000 Verdict against Samson Mfg. June 21, 2007, Boston, Massachusetts. Today, a Suffolk County Superior Court jury awarded Troy Industries, Inc., of West Springfield, Massachusetts, a $505,000 verdict against Samson Manufacturing Corporation and Scott Samson, individually. The jury found that Samson violated the Confidentiality Agreement it had with Troy and that Samson wrongfully used Troy’s trade secrets and confidential business information. The jury also found that Samson engaged in unfair and deceptive business practices in violation of Massachusetts General Laws, Chapter 93A. The jury’s finding that Samson engaged in unfair and deceptive business practices entitles Troy to an award of its attorney fees and costs. The trade secrets at issue were for Troy’s ideas, inventions, designs and drawings of the Modular Rail Fore-end, for which Troy was recently issued US Patent No. 7,216,451. Also at issue were Troy’s designs and drawings for the Forward Handgrip and its Scope Mount. These products are Troy’s designs for accessorizing the M16 rifle and carbine used by our military in training and in combat abroad, including the Middle East. Troy is a designer of military weapons and weapons accessories. Stephen P. Troy, President of Troy Industries said, “This vindicates me. The decision of the jury clearly shows these were my ideas, my designs and my inventions from the very beginning.” Damian R. LaPlaca, of Donovan Hatem LLP, Troy’s lead trial counsel, added, “This means that when you steal somebody’s trade secrets and ideas and try to pass them off as your own, you’ll have to pay.” Troy was also represented at trial by attorneys Sarah K. Willey, Troy’s General Counsel, and Christian G. Samito, and law clerk Emily Coes, each of Donovan Hatem, and was further assisted by patent counsel, Ann Lamport Hammitte, of Lowrie, Lando & Anastasi LLP. The jury also found against Samson on its claim that Troy breached a purchase order for the machining of the Modular Rail Fore-end, and awarded Samson no damages.

09-13-2007, 02:12 PM	#4
stretch415 XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: South Dakota Posts: 113	they got bitch slapped by Troy

09-13-2007, 02:42 PM	#6
rogerxd45 XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: boise ID (its boy-see, not boy-z) Posts: 3,592	so it was patent infringment and not that the hand guards violate some assault weapons ban

09-13-2007, 08:56 PM	#10
Slugger XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Western Wash Posts: 180	I roll with the old oven mitt! Old FAL trick hahahahha Slugger __________________ Anti-gun = Anti-American The 2nd has nothing to do with duck hunting!

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