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[GaryTx]

Originally Posted by Alaskapopo

True Colt is the best maker of AR's going and Glock makes the best mass produced production service pistol. They are both the best at what they do...
Pat

What a bunch of bull! You tell us often what an authority you are...apparently you've never heard of Sig Sauer or Heckler & Koch pistols.

[Alaskapopo]

Originally Posted by drawson

Alaskapopo, If your such a Colt guys why don't you ahve a Colt 1911 and use a 2nd tier Kimber and your Wilson isn't a Colt either

As far as your real world operators (military and leo) go I would dare to venture that us compitition shooters put more rounds down range than 2 or 3 real world operators. And I know for me I demand alot higher degree of hits than most LEOs even get.

My RRA has upwards of 15K through it and it will shoot 1 moa all day and the only thing I've replace is gas rings

So with this I disagree with your accessment of the all and mighty Colts.

And agree that the 1911 is the best gun design there is, Glocks are good but the XDs are better

Dawson Colt makes nice 1911's but none with a light rail and the 1911 vs AR argument is not a good one. Colt has DOD inspectors visit the plant they must meet certain quality control standards for their rifles that is not so with the pistols. Colt MP tests each bolt and barrel most others like RRA do not. Colt uses M4 feed ramps and the proper steel and 1 in 7 twist barrels. All these little things add up to a better gun and a lower lemon rate.
pat

[Polymerhead]

I like DPMS. My one and a half ARs are DPMS and I'll finish the build with DPMS stuff. I haven't had an issue with them to make me think otherwise of them.

[636]

Originally Posted by Polymerhead

I like DPMS. My one and a half ARs are DPMS and I'll finish the build with DPMS stuff. I haven't had an issue with them to make me think otherwise of them.

+1

[drawson]

Alaskapopo, My RRA has a Wilson air guaged barrel.

And just one more thing I have found that is is much easier getting the 2nd tier companies to take care of issues on there guns. Colt is the worse company to deal with as far as warrantty issue are. All guns are mechanical thing assemble by us lowly humans and every so ofton something slips past. In the last 4 years I've had the least amount of issues with the smaller company the big corps are too busy to care.

The other thing that the smaller company do is offer more options. How many do Colt offer?

Last but not least and maybe this is my biggest gripe towards Colt, they are really fast to do what ever the Anti-gun turds want. Colt really doesn't care about us lowly gun owners now and that goes against everything there founder stood for!!!


This has been fun!! I hope you don't take any person offense from this thread, but I'm not converted. For my hard earned $ I can get two 2nd tier ARs for the price of one Colt.

[Alaskapopo]

Originally Posted by drawson

Alaskapopo, My RRA has a Wilson air guaged barrel.

And just one more thing I have found that is is much easier getting the 2nd tier companies to take care of issues on there guns. Colt is the worse company to deal with as far as warrantty issue are. All guns are mechanical thing assemble by us lowly humans and every so ofton something slips past. In the last 4 years I've had the least amount of issues with the smaller company the big corps are too busy to care.

The other thing that the smaller company do is offer more options. How many do Colt offer?

Last but not least and maybe this is my biggest gripe towards Colt, they are really fast to do what ever the Anti-gun turds want. Colt really doesn't care about us lowly gun owners now and that goes against everything there founder stood for!!!


This has been fun!! I hope you don't take any person offense from this thread, but I'm not converted. For my hard earned $ I can get two 2nd tier ARs for the price of one Colt.

The best warranty is the one you never have to use. I have never had to send a Colt back in for warranty work because they have never failed me and I have owned 6. Colt is simply trying to stay in buisiness. They have made some stupid political moves but so has Smith and Wesson and Ruger and I will still buy their guns because they are some of the best. When my life is on the line I want a good gun and I could care less about the makers politics.
Pat

[Alaskapopo]

Originally Posted by GaryTx

What a bunch of bull! You tell us often what an authority you are...apparently you've never heard of Sig Sauer or Heckler & Koch pistols.

I have owned both HK and Sig pistols. I don't care for double actions. Also both HK and Sig have high bore axis that magnify recoil. Their triggers have long resets in single action mode and in double action mode they suck unless you get them tuned. I don't care for the dao Sigs or HK's. I would take a Glock over any Sig or HK. I started my career with a Hk USP in 45 acp. Not a bad gun but I preferred the Glock 21 I was issued after it. The 21 had less recoil and a far superior trigger action as well as more magazine capacity (+1 on the HK)

I have owned the following sigs: 220, 226, 229 (40sw) 229(357 sig) 229 Sport (357 sig) Sig 239 (9mm) Sig 239 (357 sig). Sigs are great pistols and the best DA's out there. But I hate DA SA guns now. I also don't care for the high bore axis of Sigs and the long reset on the trigger. There is a reason Glock dominates the leo market in the USA with over 75% of all departments using them.
I am a 1911 fan first but I really like Glocks a lot. They in my opinion are the best thing going for standard service pistols.
Pat

[dasanii19]

Originally Posted by drawson

Alaskapopo, My RRA has a Wilson air guaged barrel.

And just one more thing I have found that is is much easier getting the 2nd tier companies to take care of issues on there guns. Colt is the worse company to deal with as far as warrantty issue are. All guns are mechanical thing assemble by us lowly humans and every so ofton something slips past. In the last 4 years I've had the least amount of issues with the smaller company the big corps are too busy to care.

The other thing that the smaller company do is offer more options. How many do Colt offer?

Last but not least and maybe this is my biggest gripe towards Colt, they are really fast to do what ever the Anti-gun turds want. Colt really doesn't care about us lowly gun owners now and that goes against everything there founder stood for!!!


This has been fun!! I hope you don't take any person offense from this thread, but I'm not converted. For my hard earned $ I can get two 2nd tier ARs for the price of one Colt.

You are absolutely mistaken about Colts warranty. Colts customer serivce is top notch,I know this first hand. Ive used it more then once with a quick and happy out come every time. I have proof if you need it. Please dont drag tales of which you only "hear" it only makes rumors worse.

[mvician]

Originally Posted by drawson

Ok not to start a bash, but who make the current military M4? And who just won the contract for the DEA gun.


FN is the current contract for the the M4 not Colt and RRA won the DEA contract.

http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/...arbines-03219/

[GaryTx]

Originally Posted by Alaskapopo

... I really like Glocks a lot. They in my opinion are the best thing going for standard service pistols.
Pat

I would be willing to bet that I've worked on more H&K pistols than you've ever seen. Glocks are servicable firearms. They enjoy a predominance in the LEO market because of a very agressive marketing program and low pricing. They do not enjoy the same predominance in the military where cost isn't a factor.

Your assertion that "Glock makes the best mass produced production [sic] service pistol" is absurd. They are in no way anywhere close to the quality of an H&K in design, engineering and/or production quality.

You may like them, and there is noting wrong with that. But please .