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rogerxd45 · 09-10-2007, 01:51 PM

ok im looking to buy a upper for my ar build and i want one with the bull barrel and the free float hand guard but none of these seem to come with iron sights. at some point i will get optics on it but i wanted to learn on iron sights first. any help/links would be great

longtalltechsan · 09-10-2007, 03:00 PM

The Stag 2HT comes with rail, flip up rear iron site and front site post. MSRP is $695, but you can find it cheaper from other retailers like ar15sales.com.

ETA: ar15sales.com doesn't have that one listed on their site, however, do some searching and I am confident you can find that one. Or it may be cheaper for you to purchase the 2H upper and then buy an aftermarket quad rail handguard and install it yourself.

**mvician** · 09-10-2007, 03:16 PM

what barrel length ? and if this is not going to be a bench/varmit type rifle...why the bull barrel ?

usually bull barrels don't come with "irons".

Mike

636 · 09-10-2007, 03:47 PM

rock river A4 varmint comes with a rail on the gas block....so you can mount sights separately

Badshot · 09-10-2007, 03:58 PM

Give Pete (AR15SALES.COM) a call and talk to him about what you're looking to do, he'll let you know what he has/can get or point you in the right direction.

rogerxd45 · 09-11-2007, 02:08 AM

well thank you i will most likely do varmit and target shooting
most likely i will get a scope but so i guess the sights are not a big deal

NorwichGrad · 09-11-2007, 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by rogerxd45

ok im looking to buy a upper for my ar build and i want one with the bull barrel and the free float hand guard but none of these seem to come with iron sights. at some point i will get optics on it but i wanted to learn on iron sights first. any help/links would be great

Here is an excellent source:

www.whiteoakarmament.com

I have two of their uppers for high power (HP) competition. One is a spacegun, the other a National Match service rifle. Even if you are not a serious HP competitor, I would consider WOA. They make some of the best uppers at a reasonable cost.

ichy_trigger · 09-11-2007, 06:06 AM

Rock River makes their Varmint upper in different barrel lengths and as someone else said, they have a rail on the gas block. If you get this upper then you can add a flip-up sight to the front and rear and still be able to mount your scope. They also promise 3/4" MOA accuracy. They use a Wylde chamber which is somewhere between a 5.56 NATO and a .223 so you can shoot surplus ammo in it if you so choose AND still shoot commercial stuff or handloads with great accuracy.

You should be able to find one new for under $600.00

Badshot · 09-11-2007, 07:41 AM

White Oak is all that and a bag of chips when it comes to production run weapons. They are priced accordingly though, but if you're going to compete at all they are the bench mark.

As always I will strongly recommend having iron sights on any AR, at least QD sights that can be mounted if needed, but get them anyway!

stretch415 · 09-11-2007, 02:57 PM

I run a larue rail with troy flip ups. troy are in my opinion the best BUIS system there is. I like the larue rail as its very solid but if you want something super easy to install get a set of troys. They run less and dont require barrel.fsb. or fh removal like some other rails(depending on how it is configured)

09-10-2007, 01:51 PM	#1
rogerxd45 XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: boise ID (its boy-see, not boy-z) Posts: 3,592	ar upper help ok im looking to buy a upper for my ar build and i want one with the bull barrel and the free float hand guard but none of these seem to come with iron sights. at some point i will get optics on it but i wanted to learn on iron sights first. any help/links would be great

09-10-2007, 03:00 PM	#2
longtalltechsan XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 3,012	The Stag 2HT comes with rail, flip up rear iron site and front site post. MSRP is $695, but you can find it cheaper from other retailers like ar15sales.com. ETA: ar15sales.com doesn't have that one listed on their site, however, do some searching and I am confident you can find that one. Or it may be cheaper for you to purchase the 2H upper and then buy an aftermarket quad rail handguard and install it yourself. __________________ Gun owner's prayer.... "Oh Lord, if I die, please don't let my wife sell my guns for what I told her they cost."

09-10-2007, 03:16 PM	#3
mvician XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: NW Indiana Posts: 3,337	what barrel length ? and if this is not going to be a bench/varmit type rifle...why the bull barrel ? usually bull barrels don't come with "irons". Mike __________________ AR15s...ya I've built more than a few http://www.xdtalk.com/forums/ar-talk...ar-family.html ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

09-10-2007, 03:58 PM	#5
Badshot XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,433	Give Pete (AR15SALES.COM) a call and talk to him about what you're looking to do, he'll let you know what he has/can get or point you in the right direction. __________________ --------------------- Stupidity should should be painful! On AR15's: Learn to use your Iron Sights before you go adding all that extra crap on your gun!

09-11-2007, 06:06 AM	#8
ichy_trigger XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 8,085	Rock River makes their Varmint upper in different barrel lengths and as someone else said, they have a rail on the gas block. If you get this upper then you can add a flip-up sight to the front and rear and still be able to mount your scope. They also promise 3/4" MOA accuracy. They use a Wylde chamber which is somewhere between a 5.56 NATO and a .223 so you can shoot surplus ammo in it if you so choose AND still shoot commercial stuff or handloads with great accuracy. You should be able to find one new for under $600.00 __________________ "The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." http://militarysignatures.com/signatures/member2645.png

09-10-2007, 03:47 PM	#4
636 XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 137	rock river A4 varmint comes with a rail on the gas block....so you can mount sights separately

09-11-2007, 02:08 AM	#6
rogerxd45 XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: boise ID (its boy-see, not boy-z) Posts: 3,592	well thank you i will most likely do varmit and target shooting most likely i will get a scope but so i guess the sights are not a big deal

09-11-2007, 07:41 AM	#9
Badshot XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,433	White Oak is all that and a bag of chips when it comes to production run weapons. They are priced accordingly though, but if you're going to compete at all they are the bench mark. As always I will strongly recommend having iron sights on any AR, at least QD sights that can be mounted if needed, but get them anyway! __________________ --------------------- Stupidity should should be painful! On AR15's: Learn to use your Iron Sights before you go adding all that extra crap on your gun!

09-11-2007, 02:57 PM	#10
stretch415 XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: South Dakota Posts: 113	I run a larue rail with troy flip ups. troy are in my opinion the best BUIS system there is. I like the larue rail as its very solid but if you want something super easy to install get a set of troys. They run less and dont require barrel.fsb. or fh removal like some other rails(depending on how it is configured)

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