Thoughts on a SCAR??

[QBiN]

I have both a ACR and a SCAR 17s... and a Sig 516. So I can speak as an actual user to the differences of either against an AR platform gun.

For me, here's the difference:

AR: Well known. Super modular with today's accessories / build options. An AR can be whatever you want it to be... from cheap to mega expensive. You really can't go wrong with an AR.

ACR: Incredibly designed and thought out. This is an engineer's gun... you can tell. Shoots well, but it hasn't caught on like I had hoped and the promised 3rd party accessories haven't really materialized nor have the optional caliber change kits. Buy this gun if you want to have a product improved AR and are willing to risk it never catching on.

SCAR: Accurate. Low Recoil. Lightweight. AK-simple. Decent 3rd party support for a new gun. My biggest complaint is that everything for a SCAR is expensive... even the magazines. Buy this gun if you have the cash and caliber change isn't a big deal... and/or you want the best .308 assault rifle out.

[Dave I]

Originally Posted by QBiN

I have both a ACR and a SCAR 17s... and a Sig 516. So I can speak as an actual user to the differences of either against an AR platform gun.

For me, here's the difference:

AR: Well known. Super modular with today's accessories / build options. An AR can be whatever you want it to be... from cheap to mega expensive. You really can't go wrong with an AR.

ACR: Incredibly designed and thought out. This is an engineer's gun... you can tell. Shoots well, but it hasn't caught on like I had hoped and the promised 3rd party accessories haven't really materialized nor have the optional caliber change kits. Buy this gun if you want to have a product improved AR and are willing to risk it never catching on.

SCAR: Accurate. Low Recoil. Lightweight. AK-simple. Decent 3rd party support for a new gun. My biggest complaint is that everything for a SCAR is expensive... even the magazines. Buy this gun if you have the cash and caliber change isn't a big deal... and/or you want the best .308 assault rifle out.

Thanks for the synopsis. Where does the Sig 516 fall into the mix?

-Cheers

[QBiN]

I'd say the Sig 516 is your typical high-end AR-15 pattern rifle just with a piston system.

I'm a lefty, and DI AR's drive me nuts because the burnt gas leaving the chamber from the ejection ports tends to go straight up my nose. So I tend to gravitate towards piston guns and guns with ambidextrous controls.

That said, The Sig 516 is a great shooter, and unless someone told you, you might not realize it's a piston gun.

Pros: It's an AR. Most AR accessories will work with it except some of those that deal with the gas system. Runs VERY clean with low heat build-up.

Cons: The piston system adds about a half-pound of weight in hardware to the front of the gun. Not a big deal for some. YMMV. Pricier than most DI AR's (though not all for sure).

[Dave I]

Originally Posted by QBiN

I'd say the Sig 516 is your typical high-end AR-15 pattern rifle just with a piston system.

I'm a lefty, and DI AR's drive me nuts because the burnt gas leaving the chamber from the ejection ports tends to go straight up my nose. So I tend to gravitate towards piston guns and guns with ambidextrous controls.

That said, The Sig 516 is a great shooter, and unless someone told you, you might not realize it's a piston gun.

So how would you rate the SCAR, ACR, and Sig 516 in order of love? Just curious.

All three (and the Sig 556 & 556-R) are intriguing to me. I like the advancements made in the SCAR & ACR, just not enough to pay the going rates. I admire the progress though and if they drop in price I'd love to pick one up. Still, a reliable piston AR seems to have most of the advantages that any of us would know, and the Sig 516 & ACR let you have AR triggers, which would be nice. I really think most want to love the SCAR, and they have their won-over fans, I just think the price tag is killing it for most of us and we're collectively trying to justify getting one.

-Cheers

[Sunday]

Get a high quality AR, they work and don't cost a whole bunch to keep up and spare parts are available almost everywhere and aren't super expensive.

[goretro77]

Cost of SCAR 17S magazines are around $40 each.









SCAR 16S pic over its Colt LE6920 brother:

[df2dot]

i really like this gun , its just too much money . would i get it? without a doubt - its just impressive. although i have never shot it it looks awesome to shoot .

far as ugly, its not. its just the ass end looks like the upside down face kid on family guy : ) . and really who cares long as it works.

i say get it, you can always sell it . another option i was considering was a Colt 901
but as noted on Colt 901 Modular Carbine .308/.223 – New Gun Review – LE901-16S
--The MSRP, which on the Colt 2012 official retail price list includes tax, is $2,129--

@#%# ! plus the recoil must be more but it doesnt look bad

another note , i grabbed a semi auto 308 at a gun show , heavy heavy heavy !!
thats gotta be the best points of a scar H along with recoil

i think its a gas piston AR for me and a XDM 4.5 and ... !!

[goretro77]

FN SCAR 17S Heavy Review - YouTube

FN SCAR 17S Heavy Review - YouTube

I can compare the SCAR 17S against my other .308Win rifles, lighter in weight and lowest felt recoil than any of the others. The recoil almost feels like I'm shooting a 5.56mm rifle.

[Jibnast]

What Leupold is that?

[TRUST8383]

Life is short. I say get both. hehe

The scar is heavier than most of my AR's. Probably because of the piston setup and huge bolt. It does cycle slow, but it is a very soft shooter. Ergonomically speaking, it is comfortable, but nothing beats a nice light AR. It's hard to choose. If someone were to ask me today what they should do with their $2 grand rifle money. I would say get a Larue Predatar w/ micro dot and be done with it.