XD Talk

AirForceAce357 · 05-01-2012, 11:29 AM

Wondering if anyone owns one of these rifles or has any shooting experience with them. From what I've seen/read about them, they seem to be of very high quality and their 8" barreled PDW really intrigues me. Thanks guys.

buckhorn_cortez · 05-01-2012, 09:42 PM

I have a 5.56 REC7. Piston system is extremely simple, runs well. A friend and I were out last week with it with a 1-4x scope on it & we're hitting steel plates at 600 meters. I've put 2k rounds through it and never cleaned the bolt. Took the piston out to see what it looked like and it barely looked dirty. Might be the best piston AR on the market. Ronnie Barrett knows how to build a rifle.

Falcon31 · 05-01-2012, 10:07 PM

im courious as well since ill be in the market for another ar here soon

PiercedJD · 05-01-2012, 11:22 PM

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Vandal · 05-02-2012, 12:29 AM

I have found with my PWS Mk114 vs a DI gun there is even less felt recoil, the gun stays cooler, less lube to use, and the aspect of time saved while cleaning.

I bought mine as a fighting gun. The idea of direct impingement never really appealed to me esp. being told if the gun slows down "just add more lube and it'll keep running". I didn't want a gun that to keep it running I'd have to add a bunch more lube and I didn't want an AK, so I spent the $1600 on a very good piston AR. Personally, I'll take it over any 16in DI gun any day.

I've read the specs and even handled a few KAC and LaRue guns, still not sure what makes then so special.

buckhorn_cortez · 05-02-2012, 04:40 AM

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While I'm sure the fit and finish are excellent per other barrett products, what else is it packing that justifies the $1700 price tag? Maybe I'm just not sold on the piston systems as any kind of advantage other than less cleaning, which is really a non issue with direct impingement rifles anyway as long as you keep them lubed.

For that kind of money you could get an entry level KAC/Larue which packs a lot of excellent features.

Same thing that justifies KAC's price, LaRue's price, JP Rifles price etc. - what do think justifies their prices and not Barrett's?

The Barrett has been totally designed as a piston rifle. Bolt and bolt carrier are designed to eliminate carrier tilt, the piston system is Barrett designed. Design, machining, fitting, part choices are all first rate.

I hate cleaning bolts and receivers plus running a piston rifle drives "DI is best" people nuts and that alone is worth the price for the entertainment value.

AirForceAce357 · 05-02-2012, 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by buckhorn_cortez

I have a 5.56 REC7. Piston system is extremely simple, runs well. A friend and I were out last week with it with a 1-4x scope on it & we're hitting steel plates at 600 meters. I've put 2k rounds through it and never cleaned the bolt. Took the piston out to see what it looked like and it barely looked dirty. Might be the best piston AR on the market. Ronnie Barrett knows how to build a rifle.

Thanks for the info buckhorn! and good on you being able to hit steel at 600 meters!

To those asking why pay the price for this gun: Let me first say I've got no problem with the DI system for full size ARs, but if I'm going to go SBR and/or suppressed (which is my plan for a Rec7 PDW, the 8" barrel version)I'm more inclined to go with a piston gun. From my research and talking to several people who's opinion I trust, piston guns seem to take to short barrel and suppressor use easier than DI. I plan to own several ARs, probably most of them DI but in this specific case, I want piston.

PiercedJD · 05-02-2012, 07:04 AM

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AirForceAce357 · 05-02-2012, 10:13 AM

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Barrett REC7 in 5.56 NATO | Shooting Illustrated

Thanks for the link I hadn't seen that. However, I don't understand what you were getting at posting the other paragraph. reading the whole article, it sounds like the author used the suppressed setting on an unsuppressed rifle after being frustrated with a lack of accuracy in the rifle (thought I can't say 1 1/8" at 100yrds is anyting to bitch about for a fighting gun--i mean it's not meant to be a bench rifle for pete's sake!). First, if the gun's not accurate, changing the gas setting won't help anyway. Second, there's a reason that setting didn't work, it's meant for having a can on the gun, as the gases behave differently when you have a suppressed weapon vs. an unsuppressed one, so I'm not surprised it didn't work.

Still an interesting article, thanks!