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AR 15 vs Ruger Gunsite vs M1A SOCOM

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Old 12-22-2011, 03:28 PM   #11
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Old 12-22-2011, 03:46 PM   #12
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I would personally go with the Ruger Gunsite Rifle. Good all-purpose rifle. Not a go to war gun, not a dedicated deer rifle, but a great all around rifle. A .308 will kill pretty much anything you need it to kill.
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Old 12-22-2011, 03:54 PM   #13
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Having shot both the M1A and the AR 10, I like the M1A better as far as shooting and recoil control.
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Old 12-22-2011, 04:10 PM   #14
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I have been having this argument in my head fire awhile. Love the Ruger scout, love the AR platform, and I live the m1a as far as looks and history. I think one other option you should throw in is the Ruger mini 14 in 6.8spc.

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Old 12-24-2011, 07:37 PM   #15
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Want .308 I'd go DPMS AP4. For the price you can shoot it and not worry about messing up your safe queen. It's accurate, proven, has P mags available for it, and DPMS will stand behind their rifles. If you ball, Knights SR-25 or LWRC Repr. To me if I could spend what I want I'd get a DSA FAL Para Congo. Sure it's not a OMG SCAR-17, but it's battle proven, accurate enough, and works.

For myself, I want an accurate reliable beater. But, it's what you want and can obtain.
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Old 12-24-2011, 09:57 PM   #16
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Its really a personal choice, any of them will perform well in various roles, the Semi autos will have an edge in a fight, but not to the exclusion of a good bolt gun if you adjust your tactics accordingly.
The GSR wins in long term reliability, (especially under poor maintenance conditions) and lighter weight.

With that said, I have 2 of the 3 you mention (Ruger GSR and M1A) have done both tactical type stuff and hunting with both, for everyday stuff, my GSR gets the nod easily. What it loses in speed of follow up shots to the M1A, it makes up for in weight and maneuverability. I would also rather have it in a long term survival situation with poor or little gun maintenance being expected. Also of my two specific examples, the GSR is quite a bit more accurate, but both shoot tighter groups than I do under practical shooting drills.

My Ruger GSR is pretty much my current general purpose go to gun, so Ill concentrate on it as there are fewer folks with alot of experience with them.

I bought mine through gunbroker when they first came out and have been impressed with it from day one. I have put a JP Brake on mine, free floated the bbl, glass bedded it and lightened up the trigger. It'll hold well under an inch all day long with ammo it likes, is very soft shooting with the brake (but very very loud, I may take the brake back off as Im not sure its worth the trade off under hunting conditions when you may not get an ear plug in.) Also I can carry it in one hand all day while trekking about, or sling it on a shoulder and not even notice it for the most part.

I use a forward mounted, 2x-7x Scope on mine as is true to the scout concept. This makes for fast shots in brush at low power and good accuracy for longer shots on more distant game when more magnification is desired.

I recently returned from a Texas hunt that I used it exclusively on. You will see it in action on an upcoming episode of "Ruger's Hunting Adventures" Television. Ruger did not pay nor reimburse me in any way for my use of that rifle for that show and did not even know that is what I was bringing until the day before travel.

Here's some pics and comments.

Accuracy:

When I first bought it, box stock with PPU Match ammo


After bedding and trigger job, not much tighter but held the group for more rounds, more consistent


Original configuration


With JP brake and 5 round mag, one stock spacer removed


Game Taken so far

Lil doe at 145 Yds, from a rested position, longest live kill with this gun to date

( different brake, didnt like that one)


Javelina at 50-60 yds:


Feral hog in brush at 70ish yds
( nice lil sow, she'll be good eatin)



Very nice buck at about 80yds




Although you ask about rifles intended for different primary missions, if I had to choose from those and rely on ONE of them to serve my real world needs, it'd be the GSR hands down.

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Old 12-26-2011, 10:48 AM   #17
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Heck I'm off all week so I might as well comment on this one also...
( I'm not an expert but I currently own the following rifles stag 5.56, DPMS LR308 , and an older bolt action M77 in 308 )

I really , really like the AR platform ( borderline obsessive according to my spousal unit )
It offers modular platform that is easy to plug and play with different barrels , stocks , ...endless options )
However , I love the M77 bolt gun ( I have also owned & shot 243 bolt gun ) M77 are easy to adjust trigger and older models from late 80s early 90s have pretty good triggers ... Bolt guns are lighter and easy to shoot and do not require lots of mods to shoot very well --- I am going to sell my older M77 and throw a few extra bucks down for a gunsight scout as soon as I'm able. I have been waiting for the craze on this weapon to die down , but Ruger has done something special with this rifle.
Also in research I have also found that savage is looking at the immense demand for this type and already has their version ready to go ...this should help demand settle for the Ruger
Not sure if I helped , but just general rambling I guess
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Old 02-14-2012, 08:31 PM   #18
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Does anybody know where Gunsite scouts are in stock? I can't seem to find one anywhere, the gunshop i go to says his distributors are out as well.
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