XD Talk

x5emix · 05-16-2011, 07:34 PM

So I'm a newbie to ARs. I've done some research and this is where I am at. Daniel Defense M4 V1 or V2 vs. Stag 2t. Daniel Defense will cost me $1200 and the Stag 2t will cost me 1,000. Which one should I get??? Anyone have expereince with either? I hear Daniel Defense is considered a top tier AR, is that correct?

https://danieldefense.com/rifles/car...arbine-v1.html

Stag Arms

Ruaerikoholic · 05-16-2011, 07:50 PM

You could find the stag easily for 100 cheaper. I also just saw a Spikes rifle for 800 form a local shop, they may ship. G3 Firearms - Hand guns, rifles, Machine guns, silencers, short barrel rifles, shotguns & NFA transfers in Turner Maine

Jedi XD · 05-16-2011, 07:57 PM

Get the DD, hands down. Stay away from Stag and the DD is better than Spikes. You are getting a MUCH better rifle for that $200. Buy once cry once.

Also read this thread to get a better understanding. EVERYONE interested in the AR platform should read it.

Comparison Chart of Major AR Brands - M4Carbine.net Forums

Might seem like a lot(and it is), but you will be better off knowing what you are getting into.

KP Ling · 05-16-2011, 08:22 PM

I've got two Stags and love them. One is a carbine that I got for around $900 (after taxes) The other I pieced together by buying a complete Stag upper and then piecing together a stripped lower - I saved about $300 bucks off of buying the gun complete (cost me about $700 altogether to build an A4gery). Both are left-handed models or else I would have saved more.

Daniels Defense makes good stuff but Stag does not make crap. I don't think you will be disappointed with either. The Stag is nothing more than a baseline AR (as mil-spec as possible but no real improvements) and so functions fine. I will say the Stag is machined and finished much better than what I had in the Army - no tooling marks, no play between the upper and lower, and everything is tight with no rattle. I have no experience with Daniels rifles.

ericc40 · 05-16-2011, 09:04 PM

If you've got the money, then DD for sure. 2nd choice is Stag, 3rd Spikes. (My personal preference). Not that other are bad, just DD has a much better reputation.

Just my $0.02

**chameleon** · 05-16-2011, 09:12 PM

Have you looked up Rock River Arms? They have amazing quality and are in the same price range. I would easily put them above Stag.

XDMan07 · 05-16-2011, 09:21 PM

I would go with a PWS Ak style long stroke gas piston ar15 Mk1 rifle for a couple hundred more. Very well designed super reilable and used by special ops. This is my favorite AR sold my AK and DI AR to buy another one.

PWS MK116 Rifle, 5.56 - MK1 Series Rifles - PWS

eniacmike · 05-17-2011, 07:38 AM

If you plan on shooting 75-80 gr. heavier bullets you want to look for a barrel with a 1/7 twist. The DD has it. Spikes Have it (I think its an option). bcm has it.

The stag arms and the RRA have a 1/9 twist, not a big deal if you plan on shooting lighter bullets.

The DD also has a free float rail, a better magpul adjustable stock, a nice vertical foregrip, an enhanced trigger guard for gloves. If those are things you are going to end up buying down the line it you will save money getting it now.
the DD has a fixed rear sight which is a negative if you want a flip up sight.

I will say a plus on the stag is they are very lightweight. and the rear a.r.m.s. rear flip up sights are excellent.

both rifles are excellent. also you can save a bunch if you purchase your stag lower and upper separate.

MadMikeH · 05-17-2011, 07:58 AM

Daniel Defense is the clear choice; if its only a $200 difference why mess with the midtier rifles?

GG Asian · 05-17-2011, 08:21 AM

Go with the Daniel Defense. It comes with a lot of extras like the magpul moe stock, magpul extended trigger guard, and a pmag, DD omega rail, DD quick detach sling plate, DD rear sight, and a DD fore grip. The rifle itself is awesome.