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smitty90 · 07-11-2009, 12:01 AM

I've finally decided to buy an AR. It will be used mostly for plinking and for my nine year old to take a deer with this fall hopefully. I would like to keep it under 1000$ if possible. I will be at a gun show tommorow just to look and maybe pick up a stripped lower. With the prices dropping maybe i should just pick up a complete rifle. It seems like the more i read on this the more i get confused. i just want the best bang for the buck. what do yall think? I want to keep it simple. I was thinking about a cmmg upper and i could build the lower with a ctr stock. Also what twist rate would be best for my needs. Will a 1/9 work good enough for the heavy bullets? I dont post much but I read often and respect you guys opinion. So tell me what you think. thanks in advance

bhxdm · 07-11-2009, 12:08 AM

With $1000 you can pick up a nice complete rifle. The past few gun shows that I have been to were a disappointment with the prices being so high. Watch your local gun shops, you never know when they will get something in. I recently picked up a C Daly D-M4 for $950.

Local gun shops have to compete for your repeat business I suppose. But I always find better prices there.

**SVThuh** · 07-11-2009, 05:50 AM

Depending on the weight of the bullets your looking to shoot, the 1/9" barrels may have some trouble. Especially if your going with something HEAVY like the 77gr. stuff.

If your going to be shooting this kind of stuff you may want to get a barrel with a nice wylde chamber and a 1/8" or a 1/7" twist rate.

If you shop around, you should be able to find an upper that will fit the bill for you.

Armed2TheTeeth · 07-11-2009, 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by bhxdm

With $1000 you can pick up a nice complete rifle... I recently picked up a C Daly D-M4 for $950.

+1, Since prices started normalizing, I've seen nice, complete Bushmasters, RRA's, LOADS of DPMS, and even a couple Daly's under $1000

smitty90 · 07-11-2009, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by bhxdm

With $1000 you can pick up a nice complete rifle. The past few gun shows that I have been to were a disappointment with the prices being so high. Watch your local gun shops, you never know when they will get something in. I recently picked up a C Daly D-M4 for $950.

Local gun shops have to compete for your repeat business I suppose. But I always find better prices there.

yea, i have about decided to buy a complete gun for my first rifle. i don't have many options locally as far as gun shops so i will probably have to buy online. i found an M&P 15 with the mag-pul stuff for 1350. sounds kind of high, plus its a 1/9. kinda of thinking i should go with a 1/7.
i'm not expecting much from the gun show but figure i might to to go feel a few up anyway

will the 1/7 stabilize the light bullets too? I wont be shooting the heavy bullets often.

**mvician** · 07-11-2009, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by smitty90

i found an M&P 15 with the mag-pul stuff for 1350. sounds kind of high, plus its a 1/9.

There are some on GunBroker with a buy it now price of $999.00

Smith & Wesson M&P 15 MOE Flat Dark Earth 811021 : Semi-auto at GunBroker.com

Here is a review on the S&W MP15 MOE on ar15buyersguide.com

Smith & Wesson M&P15 MOE Edition

A pretty good site, haven't had a chance yet to view all of it but what I've seen so far looks good.

AR15 Buyers Guide: How to buy an AR 15, Where to buy an AR-15, How to build an AR15 and AR-15 parts

RyanH · 07-11-2009, 01:31 PM

As mentioned above, if you want to take a deer with a .223, you may want to use a heavier round like a 75 or a 77 grain. For this you'll want to go with the tighter 1/7 twist.

Also check your state regs on deer hunting with .223. It's illegal in some places.

Bultx1215 · 07-11-2009, 03:12 PM

CDNN has been having some CMMG's and Bushmasters in the 800-850 range on special of late.

64g SP will take a deer easily....or hogs, too.

**SVThuh** · 07-11-2009, 03:42 PM

1/7 will stabilize the light bullets just fine as well.

Try finding something with a 1/7 or a 1/8 twist. Both will work well for your needs.

smitty90 · 07-11-2009, 11:23 PM

I'd be all over that m&p if it was a 1/7, just might anyway and shoot a lighter bullet like bulltx said. I think the local range will transfer for $10. i figure i could save maybe $100 if i do it myself with what i want. wife keeps telling me to buy a complete gun so she doesn't have to hear me cuss out when something goes wrong.

I'll probably call cdnn a find out what they got. i know i'm making this alot more complicated than it has to be. thanks for the advice and opinions

07-11-2009, 12:01 AM	#1
smitty90 XDTalk Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: southwest mississippi Posts: 72	tell me what you think I've finally decided to buy an AR. It will be used mostly for plinking and for my nine year old to take a deer with this fall hopefully. I would like to keep it under 1000$ if possible. I will be at a gun show tommorow just to look and maybe pick up a stripped lower. With the prices dropping maybe i should just pick up a complete rifle. It seems like the more i read on this the more i get confused. i just want the best bang for the buck. what do yall think? I want to keep it simple. I was thinking about a cmmg upper and i could build the lower with a ctr stock. Also what twist rate would be best for my needs. Will a 1/9 work good enough for the heavy bullets? I dont post much but I read often and respect you guys opinion. So tell me what you think. thanks in advance
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bhxdm XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Alabama Posts: 269	With $1000 you can pick up a nice complete rifle. The past few gun shows that I have been to were a disappointment with the prices being so high. Watch your local gun shops, you never know when they will get something in. I recently picked up a C Daly D-M4 for $950. Local gun shops have to compete for your repeat business I suppose. But I always find better prices there.
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SVThuh XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Southern California Posts: 2,520	Depending on the weight of the bullets your looking to shoot, the 1/9" barrels may have some trouble. Especially if your going with something HEAVY like the 77gr. stuff. If your going to be shooting this kind of stuff you may want to get a barrel with a nice wylde chamber and a 1/8" or a 1/7" twist rate. If you shop around, you should be able to find an upper that will fit the bill for you. __________________ So be it, Threaten no more To secure peace is to prepare for war So be it, Settle the score Touch me again for the words that you'll hear evermore... Don't tread on me --Metallica
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RyanH XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: DFW, Texas Posts: 449	As mentioned above, if you want to take a deer with a .223, you may want to use a heavier round like a 75 or a 77 grain. For this you'll want to go with the tighter 1/7 twist. Also check your state regs on deer hunting with .223. It's illegal in some places. __________________ Just say no to cap and trade.
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Bultx1215 XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Bulverde Tx Posts: 431	CDNN has been having some CMMG's and Bushmasters in the 800-850 range on special of late. 64g SP will take a deer easily....or hogs, too. __________________ Don
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SVThuh XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Southern California Posts: 2,520	1/7 will stabilize the light bullets just fine as well. Try finding something with a 1/7 or a 1/8 twist. Both will work well for your needs. __________________ So be it, Threaten no more To secure peace is to prepare for war So be it, Settle the score Touch me again for the words that you'll hear evermore... Don't tread on me --Metallica
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07-11-2009, 11:23 PM	#10
smitty90 XDTalk Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: southwest mississippi Posts: 72	I'd be all over that m&p if it was a 1/7, just might anyway and shoot a lighter bullet like bulltx said. I think the local range will transfer for $10. i figure i could save maybe $100 if i do it myself with what i want. wife keeps telling me to buy a complete gun so she doesn't have to hear me cuss out when something goes wrong. I'll probably call cdnn a find out what they got. i know i'm making this alot more complicated than it has to be. thanks for the advice and opinions
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