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FMJ, JHP, +P What do they all mean???

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Old 08-16-2008, 10:46 PM   #1
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FMJ, JHP, +P What do they all mean???

I just got into guns about a year ago and have asked what the letters on the side of the box mean to a lot of different people. I always get some very generalized answer so I'm coming to you guys yet again. What do they mean and what do I want to feed my little fire breathing monsters .

I bought a .45 compact last Aug. With it I bought some fed. 230 gr. hydra-shok JHP. I heard from some people on here that it was just ok ammo. Last week I picked up a .40 subby. and bought similar ammo for it. Just buying what these guys have. I'm gonna have to start buying on the net or something.

Both are all black and I LOVE both. Never thought I'd be this hooked. These things are like tattoo's. Once you get one.... well, you know the rest.

Either way, since I bought my 1st gun I've learned pretty much everything about it and how it works from you guys.

So thanx again in advance for any info you guys can give.
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FMJ is full metal jacket. This typicall means a round nose or flat nose bullet with a copper jacket. The jacket does not cover the bottom of the bullet (if it did it would be total metal jacket).

JHP is jacketed hollow point. Think FMJ but with a hollow point in it. This is your typical self defense bullet.

+P (or +P+) means a higher pressure cartridge. Higher pressure means faster velocities and more energy into your target. Not all guns can shoot high pressure loads.

IMHO, if your gun will feed it correctly, pick up some federal HST jacketed hollow points (JHP). A lot of times hollow points will not feed correctly in semi auto guns. This is more true with .45 ACP guns. If it doesn't jam, HST is a damn fine cartridge for you.
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Acronyms - Used to Describe Bullet Shape and/or Construction

Here's a list of the more traditional acronyms used to describe bullet shapes and/or construction:

BBWC - Bevel-Base WadCutter

BT - Boat-Tailed

CB - Cast Bullet

DEWC - Double Ended WadCutter

FMJ - Full Metal Jacket

FP - Flat Point

HBWC - Hollow-Base WadCutter

HP - Hollow Point

JHP - Jacketed Hollow Point

JSP - Jacketed Soft Point

LHP - Lead Hollow Point

LRN - Lead, Round Nose

LSWC - Lead Semi-WadCutter

MC - Metal Cased

MRWC - Mid-Range WadCutter

PB* - Lead Bullet

PSP - Pointed Soft Point or Plated Soft Point

RNL - Round Nosed Lead

SJHP - Semi-Jacketed Hollow Point

SJSP - Semi-Jacketed Soft Point

SP - Soft Point or Spire Point

SPTZ - Spitzer

SWC - Semi-WadCutter

TC - Truncated Cone

TMJ - like _Totally_ Metal Jacketed, dude

VLD - Very Low Drag

WC - WadCutter

* - Lead is abbreviated Pb from its latin name 'plumbum.' Pb might also be used (on cartridge cases rather than bullets) as an abbreviation for Parabellum.

J is usually Jacketed. P is usually Point. S might be Soft, Semi, Spire, or Spitzer.

This is not a complete list, but you get the idea. From here you can cut and paste your favorite bullet shape, like maybe SWCHP (Semi-WadCutter Hollow Point) or JHPBTS (Jacketed Hollow Point Boat-Tailed Spitzer.)

Bullet and cartridge companies have also introduced some creative new names for bullets in an effort to distinguish their products from those of other companies. These are generally used to describe a particular product, rather than the general bullet construction. For example, Remington's Golden Sabre bullets would rightly be described as JHP (Jacketed Hollow Point), however, they have chosen to label them HPJ (High Performance Jacketed) instead. A partial listing of these fancy
new acronyms includes:

HPJ - Remington High Performance Jacketed (Golden Sabre)

ACC - Remington ACCelerator

CL or PL - Remington Core-Lokt or Power-Lokt

XTP - Hornady eXtreme Terminal Performance

L-C/T - Hornady Lead Combat/Target

SX - Hornady Super eXplosive

GDHP - Speer Gold Dot Hollow Point

STHP - Winchester Silver Tip Hollow Point

FST - Winchester Fail Safe Talon (Black Talon)

SXT - Winchester Supreme eXpansion Talon (Black Talon)

The last one here is also fondly known as:
EBKDDERSFSCCFRTDACHSIBSDXTMELAWKITNBT

which stands for: Evil Baby-Killing Death-Dealing
Emergency-Room-Surgeon-Finger-Shredding Crime-Causing Flesh-Ripping
Too-Dangerous-for-Average-Citizen Heat-Seeking
Innocent-Bystander-Search-and-Destroy eXploding Tearing Maiming End-of-
Life-As-We-Know-It Thermo-Nuclear Black Talon

which, due to an unfortunate corporate decision, was the name that these
particular bullets got instead of the name 'Winchester Safety Blossoms'
suggested by Chris Luchini (rec.guns Tue Nov 23 1993).





Acronyms - Used in Naming Cartridges

Cartridge designs are typically given names that are a combination of numerical designations and letters or words. The numbers usually describe some dimension of the bullet or case. The letters and words usually but not always indicate the person, persons, or company which developed the cartridge design. This list decyphers some of the common
abbreviations and acronyms involved. A list of cartridges that are "commonly" available for revolvers is in Section III.B.1. A list of "commonly" available cartridges for semi-automatic pistols including synonymous cartridge names can be found in Section III.C.1. A list of available cartridges for rifles will appear in Section III.D.1., but was not complete at the time of this writing. Included here are one or two examples of cartridges which use each abbreviation.

Acronym or abbreviation (Examples)

ACP - Automatic Colt Pistol (.45 ACP, .32 ACP)

AE - Action Express (.41 AE, .50 AE)

BR - Bench Rest Remington (6mm BR, 7mm BR)

B&D - Bain and Davis (.357/44 B&D)

G&A - Guns & Ammo Magazine (.40 G&A, .460 G&A)

H&H - Holland & Holland (.375 H&H)

H&R - Harrington & Richardson (.32 H&R Mag.)

IHMSA - International Handgun Metallic Silhouette Assoc.(7mm IHMSA)

JDJ - J. D. Jones (.375 JDJ)

JRS - John R. Sundra (7mm JRS)

LC - Long Colt (.38 LC)

LR - Long Rifle (.22 LR)

Mag - Magnum (.357 Mag, .44 Mag)

mm - millimeter (10mm, 7mm Mag)

NATO - North Atlantic Treaty Organization (7.62 NATO, 5.56
NATO)

Para. (sometimes Pb) - Parabellum (9mm Para.)

PPC - Pindell-Palmisano Cartridge (.22 PPC, 6mm PPC)

Rem - Remington (.223 Rem, .35 Rem)

Ren - Charles Rensing & Jim Rock (.270 Ren)

RF - RimFire (.22 RF)

Spl. - Special (.38 Spl. .32 Win Spl.)


Sprg. - Springfield Armory (.30-06 Sprg.)

S&H - Sharpe & Hart (7x61 S&H)

S&W - Smith & Wesson (.40 S&W, .32 S&W)

STA - Shooting Times Alaskan

STE - Shooting Times Easterner

STW - Shooting Times Westerner (7mm STW)

TCU - Thompson/Center and (Wes) Ugalde (7mm TCU, 6mm TCU)

TSW - Team Smith & Wesson (.356 TSW)

WCF - Winchester Center Fire (.25-20 WCF, .32-20 WCF)

Win - Winchester (.308 Win, .32 Win Spl.)

WMR - Winchester Magnum Rimfire (.22 WMR)

NOTES

- 7.62 NATO and .308 Win are equivalent.

- 5.56 NATO and .223 Remington are equivalent.

- From a latin expression "si vis pacem, para bellum," meaning, "if you would have peace, prepare for war."

- 9mm Para., 9mm Luger, 9mm NATO, and 9x19mm all use equivalent
cases, however, 9mm NATO military ammunition is loaded to
substantially higher pressures than most commercial varieties.


- .22 RF usually refers to one or more of: .22 Short, .22 Long, and .22 LR.

- Wildcat cartridges developed by Shooting Times Magazine/Layne Simpson.


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+P and +P+ Used in Cartridge Names

Each cartridge for which firearms are chambered has a standard working pressure. Firearms chambered for a given cartridge must be able to withstand the pressure that that cartridge produces. Some modern firearms are significantly "over built", and can tolerate pressures higher than those generated by the cartridge for which they are chambered. The +P and +P+ ratings were developed to take advantage of
the greater strength built into these guns.

WARNING! - Ammunition designated as +P or +P+ should not be fired in a gun without the approval of the manufacturer of the gun.

+P appended to a cartridge name, indicates that the loaded cartridge will generate pressures higher than the industry standard for that cartridge when it is fired.

+P+ appended to a cartridge name, indicates pressures even greater than those generated by +P designated ammunition will occur when fired.

+P and +P+ loads for .38 Spl. produce pressures that fall between those of standard .38 Spl and .357 Magnum, therefore, .38 Spl. ammunition designated +P and +P+ can be fired in .357 Magnum revolvers.





Some Other Acronyms

Here are some other acronyms that may be encountered:

DCM - Director of Civilian Marksmanship, see info. in Section X.A.

GSSF - Glock Sport Shooting Foundation (for Glock owners who don't want to compete with, and risk being beaten by, owners of another brand of gun. chuckle...

IBS - International Benchrest Shooters

IMR - Improved Military Rifle (Originally, DuPont's name for some of its canister powders.)

IPSC - International Practical Shooting Confederation, see info. in Section IX.B.

NBRSA - National Bench Rest Shooters Association

NRA - National Rifle Association, read about why you should join the NRA.

NRMA - National Reloading Manufacturers Association

NSSF - National Shooting Sports Foundation

SAAMI - Sporting Arms and Ammunition Manufacturers Institute

USPSA - United States Practical Shooting Association
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^^^Holy cow thats a lot of info, thanks for clearing up the bullet info though I was wondering about a lot of those myself. I especially liked learning about the EBKDDERSFSCCFRTDACHSIBSDXTMELAWKITNBT... too bad those never made it to the market
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WTF NOOBIE you forgot GAP!

GAP=GLOCK AUTO PISTOL...

dang noob's!! now the list is complete lol
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OK... Here's a stumper for the experts here. I'm over at The Hunting Shack browsing their ammo selections and they have something labeled "JHP UHP" in several different calibers - what the heck is that? I was going to write to them and ask but I figured I'd try here first. Any ideas? Uni-cor? Unicorn???

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OK... Here's a stumper for the experts here. I'm over at The Hunting Shack browsing their ammo selections and they have something labeled "JHP UHP" in several different calibers - what the heck is that? I was going to write to them and ask but I figured I'd try here first. Any ideas? Uni-cor? Unicorn???

Yes those are unicorn bullets and are only legally allowed for hunting unicorns
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My other guess was "ungulate hollow-point" bullets, specifically designed for hunting hooved mammals. But maybe I'm getting too technical? How would the shape/function of the bullet relate to hooves anyway?

Ungulate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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WTF NOOBIE you forgot GAP!

GAP=GLOCK AUTO PISTOL...

dang noob's!! now the list is complete lol
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