First reloads fired! Lots of smoke??This is a discussion on First reloads fired! Lots of smoke?? within the The Ammo Can forums, part of the Armory Talk category; Question for the gurus! I made and fired my first reloads today
40s&w 170gr cast lead
batch #1 4gr win 231 fed sm primers
batch ...
 |
|
07-11-2008, 06:09 PM
|
#1
|
|
XDTalk 100 Member
Member #: 5373
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 157
|
First reloads fired! Lots of smoke??
Question for the gurus! I made and fired my first reloads today
40s&w 170gr cast lead
batch #1 4gr win 231 fed sm primers
batch #2 4.6gr win 231
batch #3 5.2gr win 231
Accuracy was best with batch 1 and batch 3. All of them had a lot of smoke after each shot. Is this normal with this powder? Is it the lead bullets?? I never had that much smoke with factory loads. I felt like I was shooting a muzzle loader!!
the primers look ok, I didn't see anything indicating high pressures. There is a small mark on the side of the primer indentation from the firing pin, but I looked at my factory fired rounds and they have the same mark. (is this normal to have a not perfectly round indentation on the primer??)
is it the powder or have i done something wrong with my loads???
any insight would be great!!
thanks!
|
|
|
|
07-11-2008, 06:39 PM
|
#2
|
|
XDTalk 5K Member
Member #: 6088
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Omaha, Nebraska
Posts: 9,262
|
Lead always has lots of smoke. It also depends on the lead type, hardness, and sizing. If the lead is just a bit small then it will have gas blow-by causing lots of smoke.
__________________
No Matter Where You Go,
There You Are.
USPSA
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 post(s).
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 post(s).
I am not an expert I just shoot like one.
|
|
|
|
|
07-11-2008, 06:54 PM
|
#3
|
|
XDTalk Member
Member #: 14999
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 84
|
231 does have a little smoke but the most probably culprit is the lube being used.
|
|
|
|
|
07-11-2008, 06:57 PM
|
#4
|
|
XDTalk 5K Member
Member #: 6088
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Omaha, Nebraska
Posts: 9,262
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by John4538
231 does have a little smoke but the most probably culprit is the lube being used.
|
Oh yeah!! Is there a bullet lube?
Also 40SW has a higher pressure curve and the higher the pressure the more the smoke using lead bullets.
__________________
No Matter Where You Go,
There You Are.
USPSA
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 post(s).
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 post(s).
I am not an expert I just shoot like one.
|
|
|
|
|
07-11-2008, 08:01 PM
|
#5
|
|
XDTalk 100 Member
Member #: 13829
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Freeport, IL
Posts: 263
|
Lead cast bullet + Win 231 = Smoke cloud...  When shooting my .45 with jacketed bullets I didn't notice it as bad but when I switched to lead cast it was very apparent. Good luck with the rest of your reloads..
|
|
|
|
|
07-11-2008, 11:10 PM
|
#6
|
|
XDTalk 100 Member
Member #: 5373
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 157
|
Thanks guys, are there powders that are less smoky?? not that it really bothers me that much.
lubricant? yes. just from whereever they were casted. there's a band of purple waxy substance around the bullet. don't know what it is.
I was shooting cups out to 40 yards with these reloads! accurate for sure.
|
|
|
|
|
07-11-2008, 11:27 PM
|
#7
|
|
XDTalk 500 Member
Member #: 23329
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Southern Illinois
Posts: 783
|
I use Unique with cast .41s. It is smoky, but it is undoubtedly the lube not the powder.Try the same powder with a jacketed bullet. I think you'll see it's not the powder.
|
|
|
|
|
07-12-2008, 12:04 AM
|
#8
|
|
XDTalk 5K Member
Member #: 6088
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Omaha, Nebraska
Posts: 9,262
|
Also according to my reloading manuals and the Hodgdon Website, 231 is not mentioned for the 170gr lead bullets. That usually means it is not recommended.
__________________
No Matter Where You Go,
There You Are.
USPSA
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 post(s).
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 post(s).
I am not an expert I just shoot like one.
|
|
|
|
|
07-12-2008, 12:52 AM
|
#9
|
|
XDTalk 100 Member
Member #: 5373
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 157
|
I used a lee reloading manual to find the recipe...is it not a good one?
|
|
|
|
|
07-12-2008, 07:31 AM
|
#10
|
|
XDTalk 1K Member
Member #: 4134
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Houston Texas
Posts: 1,419
|
I used to use lead uncoated due to them being cheap but could no see due to smoke so I "bit the bullet" and spent the extra for FMJ copper coated and am very pleased
look at Precision Delta 9.8 @
__________________
panther308
Always Remember:
A firearm is only an instrument. It contains no evil, no conscience, and no ability. It is strictly the intent, competence, and character of its user that decide the outcome of any and all actions taken with it.
|
|
|
|
Lower Navigation
|
|
|
| Search tags for this page |
|
ammo with lots of smoke, do reloads smoke more, lot of smoke from 9 mm ammo, lots of smoke from reloaded bullets, lots of smoke on reloads, lots of smoke reloads, more smoke with reloads, reloads smoke, smoke and reloads, why do mt reloads smoke, why do my handgun reloads smoke, why do my reloads smoke, why do reloads smoke, why does reload ammo smoke, win 231 smoke
|
| Thread Tools |
|
|
| Display Modes |
 Linear Mode
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|
XDTalk Forums - Your XD/XD(m) Information Source!
»
First reloads fired! Lots of smoke??
