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Waldo · 09-07-2005, 06:07 AM

To answer your question, wolf is the cheapest .223

Some say its dirtier so they dont like it but they willingly eat a grilled steak rather than a pan fried one. No question which one is dirtier.

WARHEAD'Z · 09-08-2005, 07:31 PM

Just because an ammo brand is cheap does NOT necessarily mean that it is good. For plinking, use Winchester, Remington or at least a proven name brand. They will have a consistent factory load. Unless you can verify maker's specs, stay away from the generic boxed brands (reloads) or the clean up and diminished accuracy rate may very well frustrate you. Wolf ammo is O.K. in a beater gun but stick with brass cased cartridges if you have a lot of money invested in your firearm. This will allow you the option to either sell, reload or recycle the old brass.

FatMatt1981 · 09-08-2005, 07:51 PM

I used to use Wolf ammo all the time for the cheapest around factor. It worked fine for plinkin holes in cans and the like, but it would get very dirty. Also after some rapid fire....it would always jam. The green coating stuff would kinda melt off the casings, and gum up the bolt....makin it not feed or eject correctly. You'd have to take out the mag, and weasel the stuck round(s) out, and then reload. I don't think Wolf is that bad as far as havin to worry about the casings blowin apart or anything of that nature, but have read posts on ar-15.com about how the steel casings can cause firing pin or extractor damage after many rounds. After finding all of that out....I stopped using it. A broken extrator or firing pin is just another bleh to worry about. I still have several hundred rounds of the stuff stashed for when I run out of the "good stuff"
However, after shooting the real mccoy....ya won't like shooting anything else. The bang is just too cool!

Lex · 09-09-2005, 04:51 AM

Wolf is cheap...and dirty.

I shoot the factory re-loads (canned heat) from Georgia-arms.com.
I like the 55gr stuff....1000 rounds at a time. Never had a problem, they always use quality brass, etc. Nice folks too!!
My RRA loves it!

Lex in NC

WARHEAD'Z · 10-16-2005, 12:10 AM

For the "BEST VALUE" (short of being free) in .223/5.56, I vote Winchester White Box 55gr FMJ in the 40 round value box priced at $7.73 a box at Wal-Mart. It is Q3131A mil spec ammo and made in Israel.

orc4hire · 10-16-2005, 02:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boricua9mm

I wouldn't trust what the lower says. You can usually check under the handguards of the upper to find out what the barrel is actually chambered for.

+1. What's on the lower doesn't matter; check the barrel markings to see what it's chambered for. It should be clearly marked. My Bushmaster Superlight has '5.56 NATO 1/9' stamped on the barrel just forward of the front sight base.

5.56mm is a little looser than .223. You can shoot .223 just fine in a rifle chambered for 5.56, but not the other way around.

blefferd · 10-20-2005, 10:47 AM

The differnce between .223 Rem and the 5.56 is the 5.56 more or less like a +P round made for the military.

its not recomended shooting the 5.56 Nato round threw anything other than M16/ar15's because they where designed to handle the pressures. i read the Mini 14 can handle the rounds also.

no im assuming since they where designed to handle the 5.56 round most of these rifles can handle the .223 Rem with no problem i shoot both 5.56 and .223 threw my mini 15 and it digests them with no problem all. And the AR being a far superiour weapon compared to the mini 14 i wouldnt see why it would have a problem with normal .223 rounds.

orc4hire · 10-20-2005, 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blefferd

The differnce between .223 Rem and the 5.56 is the 5.56 more or less like a +P round made for the military.

No. The difference isn't in the ammo, it's in the chamber size.

http://www.ammo-oracle.com/body.htm#diff

blefferd · 10-20-2005, 05:50 PM

the 5.56 is slightly larger right ?

orc4hire · 10-20-2005, 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blefferd

the 5.56 is slightly larger right ?

Correct. The link shows the actual dimensions. The .223 chamber is tighter, which makes it more accurate, but can be less reliable under field conditions. The looser 5.56 chamber gives up a little accuracy for reliability. (The Wylde chamber claims to combine the best of both.)

5.56mm ammo is likely (though not necessarily) loaded hotter than .223, which can cause problems (overpressure) when fired in the .223 chamber.

09-07-2005, 06:07 AM	#11
Waldo XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Murfreesboro TN Posts: 1,160	To answer your question, wolf is the cheapest .223 Some say its dirtier so they dont like it but they willingly eat a grilled steak rather than a pan fried one. No question which one is dirtier. __________________ I.C.E. Hotline 866-347-2423 Toll free call to report illegal immigrants

09-08-2005, 07:51 PM	#13
FatMatt1981 XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Indiana Posts: 1,467	I used to use Wolf ammo all the time for the cheapest around factor. It worked fine for plinkin holes in cans and the like, but it would get very dirty. Also after some rapid fire....it would always jam. The green coating stuff would kinda melt off the casings, and gum up the bolt....makin it not feed or eject correctly. You'd have to take out the mag, and weasel the stuck round(s) out, and then reload. I don't think Wolf is that bad as far as havin to worry about the casings blowin apart or anything of that nature, but have read posts on ar-15.com about how the steel casings can cause firing pin or extractor damage after many rounds. After finding all of that out....I stopped using it. A broken extrator or firing pin is just another bleh to worry about. I still have several hundred rounds of the stuff stashed for when I run out of the "good stuff" However, after shooting the real mccoy....ya won't like shooting anything else. The bang is just too cool! __________________ \"Through strength, we deter tyranny\" ICVM OD XD-40 4\" Black on black XD-9 4\"

10-20-2005, 10:47 AM	#17
blefferd XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: FLORIDA Posts: 1,701	The differnce between .223 Rem and the 5.56 is the 5.56 more or less like a +P round made for the military. its not recomended shooting the 5.56 Nato round threw anything other than M16/ar15's because they where designed to handle the pressures. i read the Mini 14 can handle the rounds also. no im assuming since they where designed to handle the 5.56 round most of these rifles can handle the .223 Rem with no problem i shoot both 5.56 and .223 threw my mini 15 and it digests them with no problem all. And the AR being a far superiour weapon compared to the mini 14 i wouldnt see why it would have a problem with normal .223 rounds. __________________ ____________________________ NEF 20 Guage Parder Model (single shot) S&W 642 .38

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blefferd XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: FLORIDA Posts: 1,701	the 5.56 is slightly larger right ? __________________ ____________________________ NEF 20 Guage Parder Model (single shot) S&W 642 .38

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09-08-2005, 07:31 PM	#12
WARHEAD'Z XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 599	Just because an ammo brand is cheap does NOT necessarily mean that it is good. For plinking, use Winchester, Remington or at least a proven name brand. They will have a consistent factory load. Unless you can verify maker's specs, stay away from the generic boxed brands (reloads) or the clean up and diminished accuracy rate may very well frustrate you. Wolf ammo is O.K. in a beater gun but stick with brass cased cartridges if you have a lot of money invested in your firearm. This will allow you the option to either sell, reload or recycle the old brass.

09-09-2005, 04:51 AM	#14
Lex XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 109	Wolf is cheap...and dirty. I shoot the factory re-loads (canned heat) from Georgia-arms.com. I like the 55gr stuff....1000 rounds at a time. Never had a problem, they always use quality brass, etc. Nice folks too!! My RRA loves it! Lex in NC

10-16-2005, 12:10 AM	#15
WARHEAD'Z XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 599	For the "BEST VALUE" (short of being free) in .223/5.56, I vote Winchester White Box 55gr FMJ in the 40 round value box priced at $7.73 a box at Wal-Mart. It is Q3131A mil spec ammo and made in Israel.