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124 vs 147 gr XTP in .357SIG

I have shot boxes of both and it seems to me that the 147 gr is more consistant in my XD-357 Service model. It also seems that there is not as much recoil as the 124 gr. Has anyone else had any experience with the XTP rounds in their XD and what are your perceptions of them?
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Just curious: Who is loading them for you?
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These were factory rounds.
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I've loaded factory equiv. rounds & they do seem abit softer in recoil. Then again, you are only driving them about 1150fps. IMO, they penetrate too much w/ not as much expansion as the Speer 124grGD. I think the GD is the best for the 357sig. I also like the Rem. 125grGS bonded. They are abit tougher to find though.
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I like the 147gr XTP .357 Sig load. It has good sectional density and enough weight for adequate penetration.

According to an old gelatin test it penetrated 16.2" in bare gel, expanding to .58 diameter.


Is Hornady still making XTPs in 147gr?
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I like the 147gr XTP .357 Sig load. It has good sectional density and enough weight for adequate penetration.

According to an old gelatin test it penetrated 16.2" in bare gel, expanding to .58 diameter.


Is Hornady still making XTPs in 147gr?
YEs they are, but I still think the 124grGD is all you need. If you can get the 125grGoldenSaber bonded, they penetrate as far as the XTP but expand to 65cal.
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I didn't know Hornady loaded a 147 grain .357 SIG round.

I like the .357 SIG round but .40 is much easier for me to get.
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I didn't know Hornady loaded a 147 grain .357 SIG round.

I like the .357 SIG round but .40 is much easier for me to get.
Here: https://www.hornady.com/shop/?ps_ses...6e795f962c6f79
I do wish Speer would load their 135grGD in the 357sig. At 1250fps, it's a good compromise between the 125 & 147.
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The 124gr XTP is amazingly accurate from my Glock 22 with drop-in .357 barrel. Then again, i've never shot an XTP cartridge that wasn't amazingly accurate..


I have most factory-loaded .357 Sig cartridges available, and there's not one bad choice between them in my opinion.

Federal 125gr JHP premium

Winchester 125gr Ranger T

Hornady 124gr XTP

Speer/CCI 125gr Gold Dot

Corbon 125gr & 115gr jhp <------ both are shallow-penetrating, but have explosive expansion and large temporary cavities equalling the .357 Magnum, FWIW

Remington 125gr Bonded Golden Sabers are $50, so i don't have any of them. They are a most excellent cartridge as Fred338 mentioned
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The 124gr XTP is amazingly accurate from my Glock 22 with drop-in .357 barrel. Then again, i've never shot an XTP cartridge that wasn't amazingly accurate..


I have most factory-loaded .357 Sig cartridges available, and there's not one bad choice between them in my opinion.

Federal 125gr JHP premium

Winchester 125gr Ranger T

Hornady 124gr XTP

Speer/CCI 125gr Gold Dot

Corbon 125gr & 115gr jhp <------ both are shallow-penetrating, but have explosive expansion and large temporary cavities equalling the .357 Magnum, FWIW

Remington 125gr Bonded Golden Sabers are $50, so i don't have any of them. They are a most excellent cartridge as Fred338 mentioned

I wonder just how much the higher velocity of the Corbons are effecting the penetration. It seems they use other vendors bullets but if they penetrate that much less the only delta I can think of is the higher MV/ME due to the hot loadings Corbon uses...

And, if higher MV/ME is the thing that makes the difference then I'd really like to know at what velocity this difference is noticable. I have the XD Tactical in 357 sig and with the 5" barrel I can expect 50-70 fps higher velocity than a 4" and 100-150fps more than a 3".


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