180gr. too heavy for xd40sc? - XDTalk Forums - Your HS2000/SA-XD Information Source!

MordeKyle · 04-27-2008, 02:37 PM

went to the range today and shot the sub compact for the first time. i put 100 rounds through it. seemed sparatic... im thinking maybe 180gr. is too heavy for the 3" barrel?

your opinion?

rogerxd45 · 04-27-2008, 02:52 PM

i dont know for sure but most modern JHP should expand even at lower velocities but i cant say for sure. i personally would use something in the 155-165 range that will also help with recoil

i dont know exactly what will work best this is just my opinion

ouija · 04-27-2008, 02:58 PM

i've been using magtech 180 grain since i bought the gun. i have the sub comp .40 as well and i havent noticed any issues. there might not be as much "snap" recoil from a lighter bullet but there shouldnt be any problems.i have easily fed and shot 2500 rnds

,95% of which has been the 180 magtech, the rest has been testing carry ammo like hydroshocks or DPX to be sure im going to hear pop intead of getting popped.

like i said no prob here!

fredj338 · 04-27-2008, 02:59 PM

When you say "sporatic", do you mean accuracy? Who's ammo? I perfer the 165gr but most of the 180gr ammo out there does fine in a 3"bbl.

Modificationvt · 04-27-2008, 03:00 PM

when at the range I use 180 FMJ, and carry 165 JHP. I make sure to shoot at least 1 box a month of the 165 JHP so that I am use to the difference in felt recoil. after getting use to shooting 180gr controling the 165 is easy to handle, and re targeting is fast.

digitalexplr · 04-27-2008, 03:16 PM

If this is the first time you have tried the 180's maybe just give yourself some more time with them? I doubt 180gr would be too heavy for .40cal.

EckStee · 04-27-2008, 05:57 PM

OK I'm confused. Assuming we are discussing factory loads inteneded for defensive use I thought the lighter bullets actually caused a more "snappy" recoil and the heavier bullets are more "push". I like push over snap when it comes to control for follow up shots so I feel the 180gr is better in this regard. However, the lighter bulltes are higher velocity which I think is important to consider w/ short barrels. Have I been looking at this wrong?

I could go into the hows and whys of how this concept was explained to me but it isn't important until we know if it is indeed correct.

For my .40sc I currently shoot 180gr FMJ's (Walmart) at the range and have bought 180gr Speers for defense. I plan on going w/ 180gr bullets when I start reloading.

If you want reference this post I started a while back. It is what I based alot of the above conclusions on:

Anyone reload .40 S&W w/ Precision Bullets? (the black/coated ones)

Just curious...

Later,
X

profesor · 04-27-2008, 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MordeKyle

im thinking maybe 180gr. is too heavy for the 3" barrel?

I can be of no help in this matter becuase I don't know, but I HOPE not because I just bought 500 rounds, 180gr., of factory reloads from Blackhills for range purpose...

fredj338 · 04-27-2008, 07:15 PM

If driven to the same vel. a lighter bullet offers less recoil. As you increase vel. recoil also increases. At some point, a faster bullet may reach a point where recoil is greater, but not always. Example, no matter how fast I push a 100gr 9mm, it's recoil is no where near 124gr+p. You just need to get a box of each & give them a go.

**Ed Ely** · 04-27-2008, 08:43 PM

I think that 180 grain is fine.
You just might have to get used
to them.

Ed

04-27-2008, 02:37 PM	#1
MordeKyle XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: St. Louis MO Posts: 626	180gr. too heavy for xd40sc? went to the range today and shot the sub compact for the first time. i put 100 rounds through it. seemed sparatic... im thinking maybe 180gr. is too heavy for the 3" barrel? your opinion? __________________ Динамо Москва ПАВЕЛ ДАЦЮК GO RED WINGS!!!

04-27-2008, 02:59 PM	#4
fredj338 XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,452	When you say "sporatic", do you mean accuracy? Who's ammo? I perfer the 165gr but most of the 180gr ammo out there does fine in a 3"bbl. __________________ EVERY GOOD SHOOTER SHOULD BE A HANDLOADER!

04-27-2008, 03:16 PM	#6
digitalexplr XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Jefferson City, MO Posts: 634	If this is the first time you have tried the 180's maybe just give yourself some more time with them? I doubt 180gr would be too heavy for .40cal. __________________ XD9sc NRA Life Member

04-27-2008, 07:15 PM	#9
fredj338 XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,452	If driven to the same vel. a lighter bullet offers less recoil. As you increase vel. recoil also increases. At some point, a faster bullet may reach a point where recoil is greater, but not always. Example, no matter how fast I push a 100gr 9mm, it's recoil is no where near 124gr+p. You just need to get a box of each & give them a go. __________________ EVERY GOOD SHOOTER SHOULD BE A HANDLOADER!

04-27-2008, 08:43 PM	#10
Ed Ely XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: 37.65N -84.76W (Elev. 932 ft) Posts: 7,950 Blog Entries: 1	I think that 180 grain is fine. You just might have to get used to them. Ed __________________ I have a favorite new clock ....... http://obamaclock.org/ Countdown until Obama leaves Office 1476 Days, 13 Hours, 34 Minutes, 03 Seconds.

04-27-2008, 02:52 PM	#2
rogerxd45 XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: boise ID (its boy-see, not boy-z) Posts: 3,592	i dont know for sure but most modern JHP should expand even at lower velocities but i cant say for sure. i personally would use something in the 155-165 range that will also help with recoil i dont know exactly what will work best this is just my opinion

04-27-2008, 02:58 PM	#3
ouija XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: gilbert az, the middle of the dirt, dust, heat and sweat. Posts: 310	i've been using magtech 180 grain since i bought the gun. i have the sub comp .40 as well and i havent noticed any issues. there might not be as much "snap" recoil from a lighter bullet but there shouldnt be any problems.i have easily fed and shot 2500 rnds ,95% of which has been the 180 magtech, the rest has been testing carry ammo like hydroshocks or DPX to be sure im going to hear pop intead of getting popped. like i said no prob here!

04-27-2008, 03:00 PM	#5
Modificationvt XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Burlington Vermont Posts: 1,290	when at the range I use 180 FMJ, and carry 165 JHP. I make sure to shoot at least 1 box a month of the 165 JHP so that I am use to the difference in felt recoil. after getting use to shooting 180gr controling the 165 is easy to handle, and re targeting is fast.

04-27-2008, 05:57 PM	#7
EckStee XDTalk Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 45	OK I'm confused. Assuming we are discussing factory loads inteneded for defensive use I thought the lighter bullets actually caused a more "snappy" recoil and the heavier bullets are more "push". I like push over snap when it comes to control for follow up shots so I feel the 180gr is better in this regard. However, the lighter bulltes are higher velocity which I think is important to consider w/ short barrels. Have I been looking at this wrong? I could go into the hows and whys of how this concept was explained to me but it isn't important until we know if it is indeed correct. For my .40sc I currently shoot 180gr FMJ's (Walmart) at the range and have bought 180gr Speers for defense. I plan on going w/ 180gr bullets when I start reloading. If you want reference this post I started a while back. It is what I based alot of the above conclusions on: Anyone reload .40 S&W w/ Precision Bullets? (the black/coated ones) Just curious... Later, X

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