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Old 04-22-2008, 10:14 PM   #1
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Rbcd

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I am useing these right now.
link---->YouTube - RBCD Smart ammo
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Old 04-23-2008, 04:19 AM   #2
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Cool ammo! How much do they cost?
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Old 04-23-2008, 07:03 AM   #3
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Fake ammo. It's old news, proven to be fake.
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Old 04-23-2008, 10:28 AM   #4
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$45 for a box of 25. How can it be fake? it depends on what it hits for heat. Maybe in cold weather it reacts diffrently, I do not know.
So picked up some Aguila 117GR HP IQ today. How are these for a carry bullet? will use a box later this week. They look mean.
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Old 04-23-2008, 11:04 AM   #5
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It may work as a non lethal round. The sound of the gun firing could scare off the bad guy or it could sting or even draw some blood when striking them.

Other than that it has proven to be a gimmick ammo like the Fang Face stuff.
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$45 for a box of 25. How can it be fake? it depends on what it hits for heat. Maybe in cold weather it reacts diffrently, I do not know.
So picked up some Aguila 117GR HP IQ today. How are these for a carry bullet? will use a box later this week. They look mean.
It has have been proven that there is no "blended metal" in them they are plain ol bullets loaded hotter than spec. The .223 is Hornady varmit bullets tumbled in moly. The pistol rounds are even less amazing. Tactical Forums: Login

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Using stereomicroscopy comparative analysis and SEM data, AFTE affiliated forensic scientists were able to prove that each of the LeMas rifle loads tested actually used commercially produced conventional rifle bullets: for example, the LeMas 5.56 mm Urban Warfare load is actually a Nosler 40 gr Ballistic Tip #39510, while the LeMas 5.56 mm Land Warfare appears to be a Sierra 45 gr JSP Varminter #1310. Similarly the LeMas .308 Land Warfare turned out to be a Hornady 110 gr JSP #3010, while the LeMas .308 TFSP is really a Hornady 110 gr VMAX #23010, and the LeMas .308 Urban Warfare is a Nosler 125 gr Ballistic Tip #30125--oh, and the one lead-free LeMas rifle load we tested, the .308 SSSP/HARPPII, turned out to use Barnes Solid 125 gr all brass bullets #30812.
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A preliminary SEM Elemental Analysis of RBCD/LeMas/Blended Metal ammunition has been completed on .45 ACP bullets sent to us from two different colleagues who had received ammunition samples from Stan Bulmer of LeMas.









As can be seen above, in addition to a typical copper jacket, the RBCD/LeMas bullets analyzed were fabricated with a nylon core (that gets variably squished and deformed during manufacture, resulting in inconsistent bullet CG) and metal nose portion that turns out to be composed of LEAD, with slight amounts of antimony. In other words, the RBCD/LeMas bullets are lightweight, high-velocity, lead nosed JSP’s—so much for lead-free, programmable, heat sensitive “blended metal technology”…
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Well now I know. Thank you for the insight. I did not do much resarch before I purchased. Everyone raved about them around the range. I am new to this. I guess I will have fun shooting melons with them then. Can I ask your Opinion on the IQ's?
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I haven't done any research on Aguila 117GR HP IQs, I'll see what I can find. Tactical forums is a great place to get info on SD ammo. The guy that runs it DocGKR is one of the terminal ballistics experts in the nation.
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