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LSUFAN · 04-10-2008, 07:47 PM

I have been to the range a couple of times since the purchase of my XD40. I have always used Walmart Winchester white box rounds. I usually go with 165 grain being that I thought they would have less recoil. I went to the range with my brother and used the last 75 WWB rounds. I decided to buy some reloads from the range. I didn't like the look of the bullets but decided to load a clip and fire a few. I fired about 6 and then had a jam. After that it seemed like almost every other round would jam. I got a little worried and loaded a clip of Remington Golden Sabers and had no jams. I didn't like firing the premium rounds but did not have anymore Walmart specials. I felt like complaining to the range worker who sold me the rounds but decided to just pack up and leave. Is it a bad idea to fire lead reloads? You would think the range would have good reloads. Oh well, I think I am going to just throw this crap in the garbage and make another trip to Walmart this weekend.

Here is a couple of pics of the reload next to a Golden Saber:

**rufusdog** · 04-10-2008, 07:54 PM

The trouble with reloads is that unless you do them yourself you have no way of knowing just what was done to them. I just won't shoot reloads that I haven't done my self.

The Knight Of Light · 04-10-2008, 08:03 PM

I would not use range ammo unless it was factory boxed ammo. i also would not use someone else's reloads unless i knew the person and trusted their loading techniques.

LSUFAN · 04-10-2008, 08:07 PM

I am pretty much a gun newb. I should of went with my instincts when I opened the box. I'll chalk this up as another lesson learned.

forty5fan · 04-10-2008, 10:31 PM

.40 brass fired from a gun with unsupported barrel causes problems with supported barrel guns because of slight bulge near base

**Loves2Shoot** · 04-10-2008, 11:06 PM

The lead bullet on the left is not something you would put in your gun, period. Look at the lead curled up. That is not good. Someone who would sell that has VERY low quality standards. The lead would cause the bullet not to seat in the barrel.

Reno82 · 04-10-2008, 11:58 PM

Looks to me like hand poured lead bullets. I'd would not buy reloads that I didn't make.

Breadfan · 04-11-2008, 02:30 AM

I once tried Sellier & Bellot lead bullets and my HS didn't like them at all. I had failure to extract every 5-6 rounds. And this was brand new factory ammo, mind you.

The Knight Of Light · 04-11-2008, 03:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by forty5fan

.40 brass fired from a gun with unsupported barrel causes problems with supported barrel guns because of slight bulge near base

I do it all the time. It is only bad if the reloading techniques are bad.

CharlieHo · 04-11-2008, 10:26 AM

I'd venture to say that the fact that those were re-loads was of no consequence to the "jamming" you mention.

The root cause of your jams is most likely the profile of that bullet, and the roughness where the bullet seats in the case, as Loves2Shoot mentioned.

A different bullet profile and/or extra care molding that same profile would likely give you better reliability with reloads

04-10-2008, 07:47 PM	#1
LSUFAN XDTalk Newbie Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Louisiana Posts: 6	Problem with lead reloads? I have been to the range a couple of times since the purchase of my XD40. I have always used Walmart Winchester white box rounds. I usually go with 165 grain being that I thought they would have less recoil. I went to the range with my brother and used the last 75 WWB rounds. I decided to buy some reloads from the range. I didn't like the look of the bullets but decided to load a clip and fire a few. I fired about 6 and then had a jam. After that it seemed like almost every other round would jam. I got a little worried and loaded a clip of Remington Golden Sabers and had no jams. I didn't like firing the premium rounds but did not have anymore Walmart specials. I felt like complaining to the range worker who sold me the rounds but decided to just pack up and leave. Is it a bad idea to fire lead reloads? You would think the range would have good reloads. Oh well, I think I am going to just throw this crap in the garbage and make another trip to Walmart this weekend. Here is a couple of pics of the reload next to a Golden Saber:

04-10-2008, 08:03 PM	#3
The Knight Of Light XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Omaha, Nebraska Posts: 8,675 Blog Entries: 12	I would not use range ammo unless it was factory boxed ammo. i also would not use someone else's reloads unless i knew the person and trusted their loading techniques. __________________ No Matter Where You Go, There You Are. USPSA #L3077 What a great number!!! http://theknightoflight.blogspot.com/ Creator of TOP 'O' THE PAGE!!! Moose Fight

04-10-2008, 11:06 PM	#6
Loves2Shoot XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Bend, OR Posts: 2,512	The lead bullet on the left is not something you would put in your gun, period. Look at the lead curled up. That is not good. Someone who would sell that has VERY low quality standards. The lead would cause the bullet not to seat in the barrel. __________________ www.SpringerPrecision.com The XD Specialists - Our web store is now online!

04-10-2008, 11:58 PM	#7
Reno82 XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Alaska Posts: 1,135	Looks to me like hand poured lead bullets. I'd would not buy reloads that I didn't make. __________________ *** XD-45acp Service (Match Gun I changed it to a compact for CCW... did a grip chop on it) Ruger Mark III 22/45 Kimber SS Custom Target II 10mm Walther G22 (FUN GUN) XD-45acp Tactical (Match Gun II; upgraded the bbl from PistolGear) XD-9 Sub-Compact (Home Defense and CCW) DPMS AR-15: 9mm (1/17/08...) RRA CAR A4 Upper 223/5.56---did a lower bulid 6/3/08 and bought completed upper 2/21/08 S&W 642 38 special w/ CT grips (Home Defense & CCW) in order of purchases**

04-11-2008, 02:30 AM	#8
Breadfan XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Croatia Posts: 710	I once tried Sellier & Bellot lead bullets and my HS didn't like them at all. I had failure to extract every 5-6 rounds. And this was brand new factory ammo, mind you. __________________ Listen to the XD Song! Play my Shooter™ game!

04-10-2008, 07:54 PM	#2
rufusdog XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 971	The trouble with reloads is that unless you do them yourself you have no way of knowing just what was done to them. I just won't shoot reloads that I haven't done my self.

04-10-2008, 08:07 PM	#4
LSUFAN XDTalk Newbie Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Louisiana Posts: 6	I am pretty much a gun newb. I should of went with my instincts when I opened the box. I'll chalk this up as another lesson learned.

04-10-2008, 10:31 PM	#5
forty5fan XDTalk Newbie Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: CA. Posts: 24	.40 brass fired from a gun with unsupported barrel causes problems with supported barrel guns because of slight bulge near base

04-11-2008, 10:26 AM	#10
CharlieHo XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Fairmont, WV Posts: 514	I'd venture to say that the fact that those were re-loads was of no consequence to the "jamming" you mention. The root cause of your jams is most likely the profile of that bullet, and the roughness where the bullet seats in the case, as Loves2Shoot mentioned. A different bullet profile and/or extra care molding that same profile would likely give you better reliability with reloads __________________ "The philosophy of gun control: Teenagers are roaring through town at 90 MPH, where the speed limit is 25. Your solution is to lower the speed limit to 20." - Sam Cohen, inventor of the Neutron Bomb

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