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dutchmaster151 · 03-20-2008, 09:40 AM

I live in NJ where hollow points are illegal. I have a XD .45 service model and I was wondering if anybody has any feedback on them. Thanks

propellerhead · 03-20-2008, 09:43 AM

Sounds like it's your only option.

jeepinbanditrider · 03-20-2008, 09:45 AM

I think Bree carries them.

rogerxd45 · 03-20-2008, 09:48 AM

now does the law say hollow points or does it say expanding bullets?

dutchmaster151 · 03-20-2008, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by rogerxd45

now does the law say hollow points or does it say expanding bullets?

good question. I was pretty sure it said bullets with a hollow tip but i better double check that. Thanks

dutchmaster151 · 03-20-2008, 05:47 PM

I checked the laws. Hollow nosed ammunition is illegal to carry, but not have. You are allowed to have it in your home, to shoot at the range with, and hunt with. It didnt say anything about using it for self defense but a cop my friend talked to in our town said it is illegal to use for self defense. With that said Expanding Full Metal Jackets are legal. I'm just trying to see what other people think of them. I have an xd 45 so thats what i would be using them in.

sirisaac · 03-20-2008, 09:24 PM

I have used them in my xd40 tactical, bdm 9mm and in my Springfield 1911 (mil-spec). Feeding was great in all three; no problems as you would expect. They are +p, so a little snappier recoil, but not drastic. I have tried a few different targets to test expansion; nothing formal, just for fun (water jugs, old organic chem textbooks). Expansion seemed uniform and core stayed attached to jacket, so I see no reason not to go with these if hollow points are a no-no in NJ.

dutchmaster151 · 03-20-2008, 10:12 PM

thanks

Menel · 03-21-2008, 07:32 AM

I've been meaning to get some to replace my Win Rangers for my bed side XD. I saw a study that showed hollow points fill up with drywall, didn't expand, and penetrated decently well. Like 10-12 panels. While the drywall caused the EFMJ's to expand, and they only went through 5-6 panels. I liked that much better. While both had plenty of pentration and expansion in all the tests using ballistics gel and such.

03-20-2008, 09:40 AM	#1
dutchmaster151 XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: 973 NJ Posts: 117	Anyone use Federal EFMJ? I live in NJ where hollow points are illegal. I have a XD .45 service model and I was wondering if anybody has any feedback on them. Thanks __________________ "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms. . . disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. . . Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man." - Thomas Jefferson XD-45 Service w/ TLR-2 Glock 17 Remington 870 TAC Desert Recon 12 ga Remington 870 Express Magnum 20ga

03-20-2008, 09:43 AM	#2
propellerhead XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Foat Wurth, TX Posts: 3,653	Sounds like it's your only option. __________________ XD-9 Tactical for IDPA, XD-40 Subcompact for concealed carry, XD-45 Service for home defense. Three models, three purposes, no compromises.

03-20-2008, 09:45 AM	#3
jeepinbanditrider XDTalk 4K Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Mineral Wells, Tx Posts: 4,979	I think Bree carries them. __________________ Stuff USPSA-A59201

03-20-2008, 05:47 PM	#6
dutchmaster151 XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: 973 NJ Posts: 117	hollow nose I checked the laws. Hollow nosed ammunition is illegal to carry, but not have. You are allowed to have it in your home, to shoot at the range with, and hunt with. It didnt say anything about using it for self defense but a cop my friend talked to in our town said it is illegal to use for self defense. With that said Expanding Full Metal Jackets are legal. I'm just trying to see what other people think of them. I have an xd 45 so thats what i would be using them in. __________________ "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms. . . disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. . . Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man." - Thomas Jefferson XD-45 Service w/ TLR-2 Glock 17 Remington 870 TAC Desert Recon 12 ga Remington 870 Express Magnum 20ga

03-20-2008, 09:24 PM	#7
sirisaac XDTalk Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Colorado Posts: 69	I have used them in my xd40 tactical, bdm 9mm and in my Springfield 1911 (mil-spec). Feeding was great in all three; no problems as you would expect. They are +p, so a little snappier recoil, but not drastic. I have tried a few different targets to test expansion; nothing formal, just for fun (water jugs, old organic chem textbooks). Expansion seemed uniform and core stayed attached to jacket, so I see no reason not to go with these if hollow points are a no-no in NJ. __________________

03-20-2008, 09:48 AM	#4
rogerxd45 XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: boise ID (its boy-see, not boy-z) Posts: 3,592	now does the law say hollow points or does it say expanding bullets?

03-20-2008, 10:12 PM	#8
dutchmaster151 XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: 973 NJ Posts: 117	thanks __________________ "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms. . . disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. . . Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man." - Thomas Jefferson XD-45 Service w/ TLR-2 Glock 17 Remington 870 TAC Desert Recon 12 ga Remington 870 Express Magnum 20ga

03-21-2008, 07:32 AM	#9
Menel XDTalk Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 77	I've been meaning to get some to replace my Win Rangers for my bed side XD. I saw a study that showed hollow points fill up with drywall, didn't expand, and penetrated decently well. Like 10-12 panels. While the drywall caused the EFMJ's to expand, and they only went through 5-6 panels. I liked that much better. While both had plenty of pentration and expansion in all the tests using ballistics gel and such.

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