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ampleworks · 06-13-2005, 04:46 PM

I know its 380 auto but its still a nice comparison.

I plan to hit the range tomorrow if its not raining and do chrono and water jug tests. I also plan to test 127 +P+ vs 124 +P gold dots.

HighVelocity · 06-13-2005, 05:23 PM

I am anxious to hear how your tests on the Supreme SXT pan out. Here's a link showing some pretty lame results. http://www.firearmstactical.com/test...95ssxt-b85.htm

I am carrying the 90 Corbon +P in my 380. I do not have a link to similar test for that round but you can sure feel the difference in the way the pistol behaves.

ampleworks · 06-13-2005, 05:45 PM

My idea is, whether its a misconception or not but...

More petals = more force required to spread them out. Given a 380 is going right at or just under 1000fps, the larger petals should seperate easier than one having more.

The Supreme SXTs I dug out of my "magazine box test" didn't expand for crap. I'm debating whether to do that test in a few mins when the sun goes down.

The Tengu · 06-13-2005, 06:00 PM

A Bersa 380 is what I'll be getting my wife, I think.

I'm pretty interested to see how the Ranger-T's do.

ampleworks · 06-13-2005, 06:10 PM

Busy eating a burrito right now, I'll post pics later.

Test:
Cardboard box jammed full of magazines and jcpenny catalogs. shot at 15 feet.

Ammo tested:
147 whitebox jhp (walmart)
135 federal hydra shock (walmart)
124 +p gold dot (sporting goods)
127 +p+ ranger (jerry kirkpactrick)

Ammo above is listed in pentration order, least to most. All jackets seperated and fragmented with the exception of the ranger. The ranger kept its shape.

I felt no change in recoil between +P gold dot and +P+ ranger but the penetration amount was definately about 3" farther into the box.

After inspecting the jackets of all four rounds, it looks like the Ranger is almost twice as thick compared to all the others, perhaps the reason it didn't seperate and fragment all to hell!

I'll do 380 tomorrow after I buy some more ball ammo to compare it with, since there's some what of a debate of which ammunition to use (ball or hollowpoint) when using something 380 or smaller.

HighVelocity · 06-18-2005, 08:58 AM

Updates?

ampleworks · 06-18-2005, 10:01 AM

My milk jug source went kerplunk, but I was able to chrono stuff...

Link to that thread:
http://www.hs2000talk.com/viewtopic.php?t=22696

BrokenArrow · 06-19-2005, 07:32 PM

Shot into bare gel, into hogs, and hogs covered w denim:

180 Ranger T .74, .72, .68
180 Supreme SXT .68, .66, .59
155 Silvertip .70, .66, .61

06-13-2005, 04:46 PM	#1
ampleworks XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Communistic Ohio Posts: 1,161	Supreme SXT vs Ranger SXT I know its 380 auto but its still a nice comparison. I plan to hit the range tomorrow if its not raining and do chrono and water jug tests. I also plan to test 127 +P+ vs 124 +P gold dots. __________________ *Ampleworks*

06-13-2005, 05:45 PM	#3
ampleworks XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Communistic Ohio Posts: 1,161	My idea is, whether its a misconception or not but... More petals = more force required to spread them out. Given a 380 is going right at or just under 1000fps, the larger petals should seperate easier than one having more. The Supreme SXTs I dug out of my "magazine box test" didn't expand for crap. I'm debating whether to do that test in a few mins when the sun goes down. __________________ *Ampleworks*

06-13-2005, 06:00 PM	#4
The Tengu XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 1,908	A Bersa 380 is what I'll be getting my wife, I think. I'm pretty interested to see how the Ranger-T's do. __________________ The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard. United States Code, Title 10, section 311, paragraph (a)

06-13-2005, 06:10 PM	#5
ampleworks XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Communistic Ohio Posts: 1,161	Busy eating a burrito right now, I'll post pics later. Test: Cardboard box jammed full of magazines and jcpenny catalogs. shot at 15 feet. Ammo tested: 147 whitebox jhp (walmart) 135 federal hydra shock (walmart) 124 +p gold dot (sporting goods) 127 +p+ ranger (jerry kirkpactrick) Ammo above is listed in pentration order, least to most. All jackets seperated and fragmented with the exception of the ranger. The ranger kept its shape. I felt no change in recoil between +P gold dot and +P+ ranger but the penetration amount was definately about 3" farther into the box. After inspecting the jackets of all four rounds, it looks like the Ranger is almost twice as thick compared to all the others, perhaps the reason it didn't seperate and fragment all to hell! I'll do 380 tomorrow after I buy some more ball ammo to compare it with, since there's some what of a debate of which ammunition to use (ball or hollowpoint) when using something 380 or smaller. __________________ *Ampleworks*

06-18-2005, 10:01 AM	#7
ampleworks XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Communistic Ohio Posts: 1,161	My milk jug source went kerplunk, but I was able to chrono stuff... Link to that thread: http://www.hs2000talk.com/viewtopic.php?t=22696 __________________ *Ampleworks*

06-13-2005, 05:23 PM	#2
HighVelocity XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: DFW, TX Posts: 399	I am anxious to hear how your tests on the Supreme SXT pan out. Here's a link showing some pretty lame results. http://www.firearmstactical.com/test...95ssxt-b85.htm I am carrying the 90 Corbon +P in my 380. I do not have a link to similar test for that round but you can sure feel the difference in the way the pistol behaves.

06-18-2005, 08:58 AM	#6
HighVelocity XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: DFW, TX Posts: 399	Updates?

06-19-2005, 07:32 PM	#8
BrokenArrow XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Lost In Space Posts: 116	Shot into bare gel, into hogs, and hogs covered w denim: 180 Ranger T .74, .72, .68 180 Supreme SXT .68, .66, .59 155 Silvertip .70, .66, .61 __________________ Mike >>>>----> In archery we have three goals: to shoot accurately, to shoot powerfully, to shoot rapidly. - Anonymous Byzantine general, On Strategy (Peri Strategias) c. AD 527-65

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