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dmurphy68 · 03-02-2008, 01:18 PM

new to reloading and I reloaded 10 rounds to spec and they were fine. So I loaded about 300 rounds of 45. Now for my trouble at the range today I had stovepipes,nonejects,and my slide was not comming back all the way to load a new round. Here is the Kicker some of the rounds I shot did not give me a ounce of trouble.

stats
XD 45 4inch
glock 45 4inch
sig pro 45

load
5.0 grains bulleye powder
cci 300 primers
230 grain copper bullet

thanks
in advance

dmurphy68

Bearcreek · 03-02-2008, 01:56 PM

Did the troubles happen more often in a certain gun? You may need to raise your powder a little (.2 grains or so as long as it is safely within the powder specs). Either limp wristing or not enough recoil/ heavy enough charge to overcome the recoil spring and push slide all the way back. I had these same issues and when I increase powder charge.. everything fixed itself. I only have 1 XD in .45, so it was easier to narrow down my problems. Your different guns may have different weight recoil springs, or also your powder charges are not consistent.. those that drop light may have had these issues, while others that are on target or drop heavy shot just fine.

My experience and $.05 worth( $.03 tariff for giving opinion on my Birthday

)

Texas-Gun-Man · 03-02-2008, 02:10 PM

Happy Birthday Bearcreek!!!

fredj338 · 03-02-2008, 10:08 PM

Recheck your powder scale &/or measure & make sure you are throwing the same weight charge each time. It sounds like you do not have enough pressure going to cycle the slide 100%, although 5gr of BE should be fine. Did you test fire the original 10rds from a full magazine? Is the pistol new, maybe a short break in period? Did you have some lube on the slide rails? Did you taper crimp enough? Lot's of things to go wrong here.

dmurphy68 · 03-03-2008, 02:58 AM

Happened the same in all guns. My XD has had about 500 rounds put threw it before I tried reloading. I did check my powder every 50 i did. I would weigh my powder before I started and rechecked it when i was finished with the 50. I always got 5 grains or 4.9 grains. I will recalabrate my scales to see if that helps and go up to 5.4 grains on my powder. that is the highest grain I can put in the load.

I did test fire the first rounds from a full mag. I did break down my xd and put oil on the slide after i started having the prob. Still had the prob so I asked a buddy to put it in his two guns. He had the same prob on both of them.

Oh and Happy Birthday Bearcreek

thanks for all the replies
dmurphy68

Salilus · 03-03-2008, 01:57 PM

What is the overall Length?

dmurphy68 · 03-03-2008, 02:37 PM

over all length is 1.250 same a the wwb ammo I got from wally world

ichy_trigger · 03-03-2008, 02:44 PM

if you know someone with a Chronograph I would suggest hooking up with them and testing the velocities. As bearcreek pointed out, I believe your powdercharge is inconsistent and is too weak. A chrono will point this out if you have any of these rounds left to shoot. Its a great investment and you can get a decent chrono for $100.00 or less.

Bearcreek · 03-03-2008, 02:45 PM

Thanks for the Birthday greetings!! My parents even managed to screw it up.. they thought my B-day was on Monday... errr today.

Just a question here... is it safe to max out powder load for the cartridge? if you are at 5.0gr and max is 5.4.. I am cautious and conservative.. I would probably try a 5.2 measurement... I am new to reloading, myself so some one more knowledgeable please correct me if I am incorrect with my thinkings about max powder loads.

Thanks!

ichy_trigger · 03-03-2008, 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bearcreek

Thanks for the Birthday greetings!! My parents even managed to screw it up.. they thought my B-day was on Monday... errr today.

Just a question here... is it safe to max out powder load for the cartridge? if you are at 5.0gr and max is 5.4.. I am cautious and conservative.. I would probably try a 5.2 measurement... I am new to reloading, myself so some one more knowledgeable please correct me if I am incorrect with my thinkings about max powder loads.

Thanks!

Yes, but approach max charges slowly and caustiously.

03-02-2008, 01:18 PM	#1
dmurphy68 XDTalk Newbie Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Middletown, Ohio Posts: 15	Trouble at the Range new to reloading and I reloaded 10 rounds to spec and they were fine. So I loaded about 300 rounds of 45. Now for my trouble at the range today I had stovepipes,nonejects,and my slide was not comming back all the way to load a new round. Here is the Kicker some of the rounds I shot did not give me a ounce of trouble. stats XD 45 4inch glock 45 4inch sig pro 45 load 5.0 grains bulleye powder cci 300 primers 230 grain copper bullet thanks in advance dmurphy68 __________________ XD45 4" DPMS AR-15 M4 Sig 225 P6 9mm Savage .17 Mossberg 500 pump 12G Marlin 22 lever action RON PAUL 2008 The very atmosphere of firearms everywhere restrains evil interference. When firearms go, all goes, we need them every hour. - George Washington No free man shall be debarred the use of arms - Thomas Jefferson

03-02-2008, 01:56 PM	#2
Bearcreek XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 769	Did the troubles happen more often in a certain gun? You may need to raise your powder a little (.2 grains or so as long as it is safely within the powder specs). Either limp wristing or not enough recoil/ heavy enough charge to overcome the recoil spring and push slide all the way back. I had these same issues and when I increase powder charge.. everything fixed itself. I only have 1 XD in .45, so it was easier to narrow down my problems. Your different guns may have different weight recoil springs, or also your powder charges are not consistent.. those that drop light may have had these issues, while others that are on target or drop heavy shot just fine. My experience and $.05 worth( $.03 tariff for giving opinion on my Birthday) __________________ Enter my home with peace in your heart- or leave with lead in your @$$!!--unknown but I like it.

03-02-2008, 02:10 PM	#3
Texas-Gun-Man XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 258	Happy Birthday Bearcreek!!! __________________ "This will be the best security for maintaining our liberties. A nation of well-informed men who have been taught to know and prize the rights which God has given them cannot be enslaved. It is in the religion of ignorance that tyranny begins." Benjamin Franklin No matter how the liberal media spins it Barrack Obama Still stinks!!!

03-02-2008, 10:08 PM	#4
fredj338 XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,226	Recheck your powder scale &/or measure & make sure you are throwing the same weight charge each time. It sounds like you do not have enough pressure going to cycle the slide 100%, although 5gr of BE should be fine. Did you test fire the original 10rds from a full magazine? Is the pistol new, maybe a short break in period? Did you have some lube on the slide rails? Did you taper crimp enough? Lot's of things to go wrong here. __________________ EVERY GOOD SHOOTER SHOULD BE A HANDLOADER!

03-03-2008, 02:58 AM	#5
dmurphy68 XDTalk Newbie Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Middletown, Ohio Posts: 15	Happened the same in all guns. My XD has had about 500 rounds put threw it before I tried reloading. I did check my powder every 50 i did. I would weigh my powder before I started and rechecked it when i was finished with the 50. I always got 5 grains or 4.9 grains. I will recalabrate my scales to see if that helps and go up to 5.4 grains on my powder. that is the highest grain I can put in the load. I did test fire the first rounds from a full mag. I did break down my xd and put oil on the slide after i started having the prob. Still had the prob so I asked a buddy to put it in his two guns. He had the same prob on both of them. Oh and Happy Birthday Bearcreek thanks for all the replies dmurphy68 __________________ XD45 4" DPMS AR-15 M4 Sig 225 P6 9mm Savage .17 Mossberg 500 pump 12G Marlin 22 lever action RON PAUL 2008 The very atmosphere of firearms everywhere restrains evil interference. When firearms go, all goes, we need them every hour. - George Washington No free man shall be debarred the use of arms - Thomas Jefferson

03-03-2008, 01:57 PM	#6
Salilus XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 232	What is the overall Length? __________________ XD .40 Tactical M&P Compact 9mm (Wife's) Mossberg 12 ga. Persuader Remmington 20 ga. 1100 LT Remmington 700 .308 Arisaka /w Bayonet 7.7 Jap Marlin 336 30-30

03-03-2008, 02:37 PM	#7
dmurphy68 XDTalk Newbie Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Middletown, Ohio Posts: 15	over all length is 1.250 same a the wwb ammo I got from wally world __________________ XD45 4" DPMS AR-15 M4 Sig 225 P6 9mm Savage .17 Mossberg 500 pump 12G Marlin 22 lever action RON PAUL 2008 The very atmosphere of firearms everywhere restrains evil interference. When firearms go, all goes, we need them every hour. - George Washington No free man shall be debarred the use of arms - Thomas Jefferson

03-03-2008, 02:44 PM	#8
ichy_trigger XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 7,525	if you know someone with a Chronograph I would suggest hooking up with them and testing the velocities. As bearcreek pointed out, I believe your powdercharge is inconsistent and is too weak. A chrono will point this out if you have any of these rounds left to shoot. Its a great investment and you can get a decent chrono for $100.00 or less. __________________ "The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." http://militarysignatures.com/signatures/member2645.png

03-03-2008, 02:45 PM	#9
Bearcreek XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 769	Thanks for the Birthday greetings!! My parents even managed to screw it up.. they thought my B-day was on Monday... errr today. Just a question here... is it safe to max out powder load for the cartridge? if you are at 5.0gr and max is 5.4.. I am cautious and conservative.. I would probably try a 5.2 measurement... I am new to reloading, myself so some one more knowledgeable please correct me if I am incorrect with my thinkings about max powder loads. Thanks! __________________ Enter my home with peace in your heart- or leave with lead in your @$$!!--unknown but I like it.

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