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Barbarossa · 01-25-2008, 02:00 PM

Hello all,

I'm looking for some information about some .45 rifle rounds.

I had a friend of the family toss me some ammo when he stopped by my work last week (I then told him he shouldn't throw live ammo at people). This is in a clip type holder (holds 8 rounds, looks like 2 "C's" facing each other, with a flat base). Reminded me of a Garand clip a bit.

Bottom of the round is stamped .45. They are quite green so I have no intention of firing them, just trying to solve a mystery. Shape is near that of a 30-06.

Ammo was found in the attic of this guys grandfathers house, and could be quite old. Google hasn't found anything for me so I figured I'd try you guys.

Thanks,
~Barbarossa

**agalindo** · 01-25-2008, 02:09 PM

Can you post a pic?

Barbarossa · 01-25-2008, 02:21 PM

I can, But I'm sitting at work with them on my desk, and no cables to D.L. the picture off my phone.

I'll update with some pictures once I get home.

jeepinbanditrider · 01-25-2008, 02:36 PM

.45-70 government maybe?

rogerxd45 · 01-25-2008, 02:44 PM

i use this web site when i cant identify a cartridge
http://www.ammoguide.com/cgi-bin/aic...?sn=fCUpMnvAWO

rogerxd45 · 01-25-2008, 02:44 PM

but my guess is 45-70

**agalindo** · 01-25-2008, 02:58 PM

He posted "Shape is near that of a 30-06." so I'm thinking it's a bottle neck cartridge.
My guess it's a 9.3X62 mauser.

The 9.3x62mm cartridge next to the 30-06, 7.92x57mm Mauser, 6.5x55 mm and .308 Winchester.

ichy_trigger · 01-25-2008, 04:04 PM

Royal Laboratory Incendiary Mark I, 1914. Also referred to as "RL Flaming bullet". Used in Martini carbines for early air war against Zeppelins

Krackels · 01-25-2008, 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ichy_trigger

Royal Laboratory Incendiary Mark I, 1914. Also referred to as "RL Flaming bullet". Used in Martini carbines for early air war against Zeppelins

Good find, that's probably it.

Barbarossa · 01-25-2008, 05:05 PM

I may be mistaken on this being a .45

The stamping on this cartridge is WCC / 45 Similar to this pictured below, but with a 45.

Western Cartridge Co (WCC). Located in East Alton, IL this private facility was part of the Olin Corp. Western filled many government contracts for caliber 30, caliber 30 carbine, and caliber 45 ammunition during WW II as well as shotshells and 22 rim fire ammunition. The East Alton plant continued to fill government contracts after WW II and still operates at the present time.

7.92x57mm Mauser looks the closest, but this has a longer neck, more flatly tapered bullet, and is smaller in diameter.

01-25-2008, 02:00 PM	#1
Barbarossa XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: 55 Electoral Votes. Posts: 548	.45 rifle cartridge? Hello all, I'm looking for some information about some .45 rifle rounds. I had a friend of the family toss me some ammo when he stopped by my work last week (I then told him he shouldn't throw live ammo at people). This is in a clip type holder (holds 8 rounds, looks like 2 "C's" facing each other, with a flat base). Reminded me of a Garand clip a bit. Bottom of the round is stamped .45. They are quite green so I have no intention of firing them, just trying to solve a mystery. Shape is near that of a 30-06. Ammo was found in the attic of this guys grandfathers house, and could be quite old. Google hasn't found anything for me so I figured I'd try you guys. Thanks, ~Barbarossa __________________ Not my choice.

01-25-2008, 02:21 PM	#3
Barbarossa XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: 55 Electoral Votes. Posts: 548	I can, But I'm sitting at work with them on my desk, and no cables to D.L. the picture off my phone. I'll update with some pictures once I get home. __________________ Not my choice.

01-25-2008, 02:36 PM	#4
jeepinbanditrider XDTalk 4K Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Mineral Wells, Tx Posts: 4,979	.45-70 government maybe? __________________ Stuff USPSA-A59201

01-25-2008, 04:04 PM	#8
ichy_trigger XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 8,318	Royal Laboratory Incendiary Mark I, 1914. Also referred to as "RL Flaming bullet". Used in Martini carbines for early air war against Zeppelins __________________ "The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." http://militarysignatures.com/signatures/member2645.png

01-25-2008, 05:05 PM	#10
Barbarossa XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: 55 Electoral Votes. Posts: 548	I may be mistaken on this being a .45 The stamping on this cartridge is WCC / 45 Similar to this pictured below, but with a 45. Western Cartridge Co (WCC). Located in East Alton, IL this private facility was part of the Olin Corp. Western filled many government contracts for caliber 30, caliber 30 carbine, and caliber 45 ammunition during WW II as well as shotshells and 22 rim fire ammunition. The East Alton plant continued to fill government contracts after WW II and still operates at the present time. 7.92x57mm Mauser looks the closest, but this has a longer neck, more flatly tapered bullet, and is smaller in diameter. __________________ Not my choice.

01-25-2008, 02:44 PM	#5
rogerxd45 XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: boise ID (its boy-see, not boy-z) Posts: 3,592	i use this web site when i cant identify a cartridge http://www.ammoguide.com/cgi-bin/aic...?sn=fCUpMnvAWO

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