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Tachyon · 01-12-2008, 09:46 PM

not knowing what to title this but wanting to ask at any rate....

An NRA lifer and trusted friend showed me a 45acp round. When I looked in the nose of the hollow point here was a small bead in there. He told me that was his own "special addition". A small metal pellet that was wedged in place. Claiming that after the round hit the intended target the metal bead continued on to do further damage.

Fact or fiction ?

What other little modifications have people made to a hollow points ??

jtkratzer · 01-12-2008, 10:06 PM

I doubt it...there are a couple manufacturers that use a polymer or "plastic" ball/bead to fill in the hollow point for better feeding...

Verk · 01-12-2008, 10:15 PM

I am not an attorney however, I would think that if you "modify" a factory round and use it for self defense it could work against you in court.

Premium factory ammo has gotten very good over the years with excellent terminal ballistics so I don't believe there is any reason to do any home made enhancements to them and in fact, it might very well have some liability attached to doing so.

Buy a good premium round that feeds reliably in your gun and leave it alone.

thisismyusername · 01-12-2008, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Verk

I am not an attorney however, I would think that if you "modify" a factory round and use it for self defense it could work against you in court.

I agree.

Yuppicide · 01-13-2008, 03:00 AM

What about cutting the cross in it like they do on movies (I think they might have shown Reese do it in Terminator)?

MadBadger · 01-13-2008, 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Yuppicide

What about cutting the cross in it like they do on movies (I think they might have shown Reese do it in Terminator)?

For better penetration on vampires?

bat54r · 01-13-2008, 03:55 AM

Personaly I would not modify any defense rounds I carry. I agree with Verk 100%. Get a good defensive round that works reliably in your gun, leave it alone (no mods) and hope you never need it.

RobFMJ · 01-13-2008, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by bat54r

Personaly I would not modify any defense rounds I carry. I agree with Verk 100%. Get a good defensive round that works reliably in your gun, leave it alone (no mods) and hope you never need it.

Agreed.

Plus, his logic is a little flawed. Lets say you put a BB in the cavity of a .45 ACP hollowpoint and shot it at someone. You have a BB going 800 or 850 FPS... thats about the same from an airgun. Penetration? The bullet would be shoving the BB forward.

propellerhead · 01-13-2008, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Yuppicide

What about cutting the cross in it like they do on movies (I think they might have shown Reese do it in Terminator)?

Aguila ammo has something like that. The bullets are designed to split up in 4 pieces.

Krackels · 01-13-2008, 12:15 PM

Might be okay for varmint and hunting use but for obvious liability reasons I would not modify factory ammunition for self-defense use.

01-12-2008, 09:46 PM	#1
Tachyon XDTalk Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 39	Modifications to holow points ... not knowing what to title this but wanting to ask at any rate.... An NRA lifer and trusted friend showed me a 45acp round. When I looked in the nose of the hollow point here was a small bead in there. He told me that was his own "special addition". A small metal pellet that was wedged in place. Claiming that after the round hit the intended target the metal bead continued on to do further damage. Fact or fiction ? What other little modifications have people made to a hollow points ?? __________________ What would Vic Mackey do ? Curious how the random discharge of a firearm can exact more justice than a 200 year old legal system.

01-12-2008, 10:06 PM	#2
jtkratzer XDTalk 15K Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Lancaster Co., PA Posts: 17,921	I doubt it...there are a couple manufacturers that use a polymer or "plastic" ball/bead to fill in the hollow point for better feeding... __________________ "The Marines will never disappoint the expectations of of their country - never!" - Capt. C. W. Morgan, US Navy "I have just returned from visiting the Marines at the front, and there is not a finer fighting organization in the world." - Gen. Douglas MacArthur, US Army The Gun Lounge Pennyslvania Firearms Owners Association Hockey Forum

01-13-2008, 03:00 AM	#5
Yuppicide XDTalk 2K Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: OAKLAND: HOME OF THE RAIDERS Posts: 2,483	What about cutting the cross in it like they do on movies (I think they might have shown Reese do it in Terminator)? __________________ ********************************************** "Thanks for the Rocks....Here's some Bullets for ya!" -MST3K**

01-13-2008, 03:55 AM	#7
bat54r XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Fort Wayne,Indiana Posts: 3,006	Personaly I would not modify any defense rounds I carry. I agree with Verk 100%. Get a good defensive round that works reliably in your gun, leave it alone (no mods) and hope you never need it. __________________ Beware the MARMOTS!!! Quick to judge...Quick to anger...Slow to understand....Ignorance and prejudice and fear walk hand in hand. Neil Peart (Witch Hunt part III of fear....Moving Pictures)

01-13-2008, 12:15 PM	#10
Krackels XDTalk 15K Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Southeastern PA Posts: 19,821 Blog Entries: 6	Might be okay for varmint and hunting use but for obvious liability reasons I would not modify factory ammunition for self-defense use. __________________ "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." --Benjamin Franklin PA Roll Call

01-12-2008, 10:15 PM	#3
Verk XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 376	I am not an attorney however, I would think that if you "modify" a factory round and use it for self defense it could work against you in court. Premium factory ammo has gotten very good over the years with excellent terminal ballistics so I don't believe there is any reason to do any home made enhancements to them and in fact, it might very well have some liability attached to doing so. Buy a good premium round that feeds reliably in your gun and leave it alone.

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