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Old 12-10-2007, 09:45 AM   #1
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Thumbs up Primer and no bullet....

Was anyone try to make a blank? I'm thinking of loading a primer into a casing and firing it. Can anything go wrong? Will it hurt or damage my XD?? Has anyone done thins??
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I think it needs the bullet shape to feed
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Old 12-10-2007, 09:55 AM   #3
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You'll need a blank crimp die and a shoulder die.

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http://www.ch4d.com/catalog/?p=19
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You will also need to cut your own brass and you may have to get a special barrel that is plugged in order to get the recoil system to work.
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Was anyone try to make a blank? I'm thinking of loading a primer into a casing and firing it. Can anything go wrong? Will it hurt or damage my XD?? Has anyone done thins??
Just an empty case with a primer? It won't hurt anything, but it is loud enough to bother your ears and has enough energy to damage anything directly in front of the barrel. My Basic Handgun instructor did a demo with a .357 loaded with just an empty case + primer; she turned the lights out in the room, told us to plug our ears, and watch. The crack was definitely noticeable and a small flash extended a few inches out from the muzzle. There's alot of energy locked up in that little primer, so be careful. It was pretty cool, though....

If you're putting powder in the case in addition to the primer, follow the above advice (and definitely don't point it at anything when it goes off).
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I remembered an actor killing himself with a bank gun a while back here's the link.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon-Erik_Hexum
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Thanks guys... I'll try a blank one tonight and let you know what happens.
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A primer only will make a loud caplike bang, & some ejecta comes out the bbl. Not for play & it will not cycle the action. What are you trying to accomplish?
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I remembered an actor killing himself with a bank gun a while back here's the link.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon-Erik_Hexum
Brandon Lee went because of a squib caused by dummy loads.
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On March 31, 1993, the film crew filmed a scene in which Lee's character walked into his apartment and discovered his girlfriend being raped by thugs. Actor Michael Massee, who played one of the film's villains, was supposed to fire a gun at Lee as he walked into his apartment with groceries.

Because the movie's second unit team were running behind schedule, it was decided that dummy cartridges (cartridges that outwardly appear to be functional, but contain no gunpowder) would be made from real cartridges. A cartridge with only a primer and a bullet was fired in the pistol prior to the scene. It caused a squib load, in which the primer provided enough force to push the bullet out of the cartridge and into the barrel of the revolver, where it became stuck.

The malfunction went unnoticed by the crew, and the same gun was used again later to shoot the death scene, having been re-loaded with blanks. However, the squib load was still lodged in the barrel, and was propelled by the blank cartridge's explosion out of the barrel and into Lee's body. Although the bullet was traveling much more slowly than a normally fired bullet would be, the bullet's large size and the extremely short firing distance made it powerful enough to fatally wound Lee.
I guess the movie industry really learned the gun safety rule of not pointing a gun at anyone you are not prepared to kill (loaded or not) the hard way...

... not.
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The primer will back out of the case some and could lock up the gun. The only reason the primers don't back out of regular cartridges is because recoil keeps them seated. There is no recoil from a blank. Cases for blanks have enlarged flash holes to keep the pressure in the primer pocket down so the cup isn't forced out. The cases modified for blanks should be marked so they are not loaded with powder and bullet since the enlarged flash hole can cause problems.

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