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jdavionic · 10-14-2007, 03:56 PM

I've been using HS-6 for my 9mm loads. For practice and competition, I've been shooting 115gr FMJ (or plated) with 6.8 gr HS-6.

Today I made some 147 JHP rounds and loaded them with 3.2 gr of Titegroup. I just wanted to see what the difference was in recoil for competing. Wow, I was surprised. The rounds cycled fine with my factory recoil spring and the recoil was significantly less. I shoot Production in USPSA/IPSC matches. I'm thinking of trying this formula out to see how it works.

Anyone try competing with this before?

jeepinbanditrider · 10-14-2007, 04:22 PM

Damn. That's a pretty light load. I know the powder can for my titegroup says 4.8 is a max load and to drop that by 10 percent for starting loads which comes out to..........4.3ish grains for an FMJ. But that's with a 115 grain bullet also.

The online reload data center reads 3.2 grains for a starting load and 3.6 for a max load so you are right where they think you should start out with a 147gn bullet. Maybe try 3grns even and see if it still cycles.

jdavionic · 10-14-2007, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by jeepinbanditrider

Damn. That's a pretty light load.

Even though it's stated as the starting load on their website, I must admit that I think I've discovered what others commonly refer to as "bunny farts"

Krackels · 10-14-2007, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jdavionic

I've been using HS-6 for my 9mm loads. For practice and competition, I've been shooting 115gr FMJ (or plated) with 6.8 gr HS-6.

Today I made some 147 JHP rounds and loaded them with 3.2 gr of Titegroup. I just wanted to see what the difference was in recoil for competing. Wow, I was surprised. The rounds cycled fine with my factory recoil spring and the recoil was significantly less. I shoot Production in USPSA/IPSC matches. I'm thinking of trying this formula out to see how it works.

Anyone try competing with this before?

I reload 4.0 - 4.1 gr of Titegroup for 115 gr. bullets.

I believe the recommended starting load is 3.9 gr for 115 grain. 3.2 is the recommended starting load for 147 grain, consider kicking it up a tenth or two and see how it works, especially if you have a minor power factor to meet.

jdavionic · 10-14-2007, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Krackels

I reload 4.0 - 4.1 gr of Titegroup for 115 gr. bullets.

I tried some 115 gr loads too. But I used 4.5 gr of titegroup (their recommended starting load). I didn't see too much difference between it and the HS-6 loads that I've been shooting.

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Originally Posted by Krackels

II believe the recommended starting load is 3.9 gr for 115 grain. 3.2 is the recommended starting load for 147 grain, consider kicking it up a tenth or two and see how it works, especially if you have a minor power factor to meet.

It looks close to the 125 power factor. I came up with 125.7 with the 3.2 gr load. BUT...I did not chrono any of the rounds. So I'll take your advice and bump it up a tenth to be safe.

Krackels · 10-14-2007, 08:02 PM

Yeah, I haven't chrono'd any of my reloads yet. i don't want to shell out the money for it, and I'm hoping that a club member can chrono them for me.

scalce · 10-14-2007, 09:01 PM

3.2 of TG may push a 147 JHP just barely to power factor.

I have to use 3.3 of TG with a 147 PFN to get it to 871 fps.

Typically I load to 3.4 so it definately makes the 850/8500 power factor under different conditions.

10-14-2007, 03:56 PM	#1
jdavionic XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: GA Posts: 5,105	new 9mm formula...for me I've been using HS-6 for my 9mm loads. For practice and competition, I've been shooting 115gr FMJ (or plated) with 6.8 gr HS-6. Today I made some 147 JHP rounds and loaded them with 3.2 gr of Titegroup. I just wanted to see what the difference was in recoil for competing. Wow, I was surprised. The rounds cycled fine with my factory recoil spring and the recoil was significantly less. I shoot Production in USPSA/IPSC matches. I'm thinking of trying this formula out to see how it works. Anyone try competing with this before?

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jeepinbanditrider XDTalk 4K Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Mineral Wells, Tx Posts: 4,836	Damn. That's a pretty light load. I know the powder can for my titegroup says 4.8 is a max load and to drop that by 10 percent for starting loads which comes out to..........4.3ish grains for an FMJ. But that's with a 115 grain bullet also. The online reload data center reads 3.2 grains for a starting load and 3.6 for a max load so you are right where they think you should start out with a 147gn bullet. Maybe try 3grns even and see if it still cycles. __________________ Stuff USPSA-A59201

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10-14-2007, 09:01 PM	#7
scalce XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Upstate SC Posts: 1,415	3.2 of TG may push a 147 JHP just barely to power factor. I have to use 3.3 of TG with a 147 PFN to get it to 871 fps. Typically I load to 3.4 so it definately makes the 850/8500 power factor under different conditions.