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wot_racing · 10-14-2007, 04:06 PM

I went shooting this morning. I took several guns but also a box of ammo for the xd40sc.. I carry 165 grain federal hydra-shok in it.. I never rechamber the round in the chamber, I always shoot it, so the bullet wasnt set back.. After shooting the chambered round, and putting 100 rounds of Remmington UMC down the pipe, I decided to go ahead and shoot a couple of mags of carry ammo.. on the 4th round of the 2nd mag, it just didnt sound right.. I cant really explain why, but it made me check the barrel to see if I had a problem.. Barrel was clear, so i finished the mag and started picking up my brass. One of the federal brass was split!! I know it was mine because I was at my private range, no one else shoots there, and it had to come from this session because I lay a tarp to catch the brass.. I can only assume this was the one that sounded funny.. Ill get pics up tomorrow, I plan on calling federal to see if they want the split case.. Im not complaining, just think they may want it to see if they have a problem..

Anyone else ever had this happen?

cid_ayrbourne · 10-14-2007, 04:16 PM

Never with Federal. I shoot .40 Service and my brother a .40 SC, and we both use Federal almost exclusively. I noticed at one of our recent outtings to the range that a couple of the casings from a box of Speer Gold Dot a friend had given us (having sold his .40 for a 9mm) seemed slightly deformed - they had a ring about 1/32 of an inch from the rear of the casing where they looked slightly bulged.

I'd heard from a guy at the range that he'd had problems with Speer in his M&P .40 and stuck with Federal because it - and I've followed suit. Let me know how this pans out though.

wot_racing · 11-10-2007, 07:07 PM

I thought I would update this.. I have sent the split case and remaining ammo back to federal as requested by "greg"..

jtkratzer · 11-10-2007, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by cid_ayrbourne

Never with Federal. I shoot .40 Service and my brother a .40 SC, and we both use Federal almost exclusively. I noticed at one of our recent outtings to the range that a couple of the casings from a box of Speer Gold Dot a friend had given us (having sold his .40 for a 9mm) seemed slightly deformed - they had a ring about 1/32 of an inch from the rear of the casing where they looked slightly bulged.

I'd heard from a guy at the range that he'd had problems with Speer in his M&P .40 and stuck with Federal because it - and I've followed suit. Let me know how this pans out though.

I've never had a problem with Speer at all. I won't ever carry Hydrashoks. The only thing I've noticed on any ammo I've carried is the ring at the base of where th bullet is seated in the casing; not a bulge, but almost like a ring where that section of the casing is polished.

kart racer · 11-12-2007, 04:32 PM

Does the case say federal or fc?It was a problem with some of the older federal in 40.

wot_racing · 11-12-2007, 04:45 PM

I think it said federal, but i cant swear to it..

bigun · 11-12-2007, 04:53 PM

That is the reason I dont reload Federal brass it tends to be on the brittle side. I can load Winchester, Rem, CCI forever in handguns without issues, I might get 1 or 2 loads out of fed brass before it starts splitting.

wot_racing · 11-12-2007, 05:10 PM

this was a brand new factory load..

kart racer · 11-13-2007, 09:05 PM

Yeah,factory loads had it happen too,in 40.FC was the headstamp though that had the problems-haven't seen too many with federal stamp.It was pretty well known with people that reloaded 40's to stay from fc brass.9mm wasn't a problem,nor was 45.Supposedly,the brass was redesigned and the web area was made stronger.

Most of the problems came when reloading the brass though,not in factory rounds.

I know it's no consolation,but I have some 17hmr unfired that the case is split.

wot_racing · 11-14-2007, 03:47 PM

how does the case split on unfired rounds?

10-14-2007, 04:06 PM	#1
wot_racing XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Harlan, KY Posts: 473	federal case split? I went shooting this morning. I took several guns but also a box of ammo for the xd40sc.. I carry 165 grain federal hydra-shok in it.. I never rechamber the round in the chamber, I always shoot it, so the bullet wasnt set back.. After shooting the chambered round, and putting 100 rounds of Remmington UMC down the pipe, I decided to go ahead and shoot a couple of mags of carry ammo.. on the 4th round of the 2nd mag, it just didnt sound right.. I cant really explain why, but it made me check the barrel to see if I had a problem.. Barrel was clear, so i finished the mag and started picking up my brass. One of the federal brass was split!! I know it was mine because I was at my private range, no one else shoots there, and it had to come from this session because I lay a tarp to catch the brass.. I can only assume this was the one that sounded funny.. Ill get pics up tomorrow, I plan on calling federal to see if they want the split case.. Im not complaining, just think they may want it to see if they have a problem.. Anyone else ever had this happen?

10-14-2007, 04:16 PM	#2
cid_ayrbourne XDTalk 500 Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Space Coast, FL Posts: 544	Never with Federal. I shoot .40 Service and my brother a .40 SC, and we both use Federal almost exclusively. I noticed at one of our recent outtings to the range that a couple of the casings from a box of Speer Gold Dot a friend had given us (having sold his .40 for a 9mm) seemed slightly deformed - they had a ring about 1/32 of an inch from the rear of the casing where they looked slightly bulged. I'd heard from a guy at the range that he'd had problems with Speer in his M&P .40 and stuck with Federal because it - and I've followed suit. Let me know how this pans out though. __________________ This message has been brought to you by Absolute Total Insanity (ATI). And remember, if it's not Absoulte Total Insanity, it's probably just a nervous breakdown. -ATI

11-12-2007, 04:53 PM	#7
bigun XDTalk 3K Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Southern Iowa Posts: 3,177	That is the reason I dont reload Federal brass it tends to be on the brittle side. I can load Winchester, Rem, CCI forever in handguns without issues, I might get 1 or 2 loads out of fed brass before it starts splitting. __________________ The second ammendment is the ammendment that protects all of the others.

11-13-2007, 09:05 PM	#9
kart racer XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 319	Yeah,factory loads had it happen too,in 40.FC was the headstamp though that had the problems-haven't seen too many with federal stamp.It was pretty well known with people that reloaded 40's to stay from fc brass.9mm wasn't a problem,nor was 45.Supposedly,the brass was redesigned and the web area was made stronger. Most of the problems came when reloading the brass though,not in factory rounds. I know it's no consolation,but I have some 17hmr unfired that the case is split. Last edited by kart racer; 11-13-2007 at 09:07 PM.

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11-10-2007, 07:07 PM	#3
wot_racing XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Harlan, KY Posts: 473	I thought I would update this.. I have sent the split case and remaining ammo back to federal as requested by "greg"..

11-12-2007, 04:32 PM	#5
kart racer XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 319	Does the case say federal or fc?It was a problem with some of the older federal in 40.

11-12-2007, 04:45 PM	#6
wot_racing XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Harlan, KY Posts: 473	I think it said federal, but i cant swear to it..

11-12-2007, 05:10 PM	#8
wot_racing XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Harlan, KY Posts: 473	this was a brand new factory load..

11-14-2007, 03:47 PM	#10
wot_racing XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Harlan, KY Posts: 473	how does the case split on unfired rounds?