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Old 09-28-2007, 04:56 PM   #1
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Question Self Defense 45 weight.

So, a slower 230 grain, or a +p 185 grain? Looking for good penetration through winter clothing/layers.

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Old 09-28-2007, 05:30 PM   #2
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I am seriously considering doing a range report on the expanding full metal jackets, to see what kind of penetration, expansion you get through typical clothing worn up here in the Great Northwest monsoons err I mean winters...

i.e. outer water-proof shell of some sort + fleece + sweater + t-shirt = a whole lot of stuff to fill a JHP cavity effectively turning it into a FMJ.
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Either will go through a down jacket w/ ease. Will the HP clog, who knows? I would not bother switching to a "Winter" load. Use what you always use & shoot straight.
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Check into the new CorBon with Barnes DPX full copper hollowpoints. Repeat, not jacketed HP, full copper HP. They are showing some amazing ballistic characteristics with near 100% retention of original mass after penetrating hard cover AND expanding.
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Check into the new CorBon with Barnes DPX full copper hollowpoints. Repeat, not jacketed HP, full copper HP. They are showing some amazing ballistic characteristics with near 100% retention of original mass after penetrating hard cover AND expanding.
Interesting.
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I am seriously considering doing a range report on the expanding full metal jackets, to see what kind of penetration, expansion you get through typical clothing worn up here in the Great Northwest monsoons err I mean winters...

i.e. outer water-proof shell of some sort + fleece + sweater + t-shirt = a whole lot of stuff to fill a JHP cavity effectively turning it into a FMJ.
Go for it, Id love to see what you come up with.
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Either will go through a down jacket w/ ease. Will the HP clog, who knows? I would not bother switching to a "Winter" load. Use what you always use & shoot straight.
Well a typical punk here in Cleveland during the winter may have on: a hooded sweat shirt, thermal shirt, t-shirt, and a leather, down, or denim etc coat.
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Seems to me like your really planning on something! "PRE-MEDITATED" ?
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Seems to me like your really planning on something! "PRE-MEDITATED" ?
Nope, I just know how these punks dress in the winter. I wanna make sure if I have to shoot a meth/crack head/gang banger its gonna go through his Cleveland Browns parka.
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hell a 22lr will go through a coat/sweat/tshirt/under layer after seeing what my 9mm with a JHP did to a ratcoon the other night in my back yard Im not to worried and you have a 45. just get good shot placement and your good.
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