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medicstimpy · 08-13-2007, 11:40 PM

Hey, all...

Just looking for any advice on a nice BIG load for 357 with a RCBS cast 180grain SIL bullet with gas check.

I had some IMR4227 lying around for rifle rounds but it didn;t have much kick even at 12 grains. (I think I posted earlier for a load for this powder).

I got my 148gr WC with Titegroup or 231 for accuracy but I want something EVIL

just to make noise and have fun with once in a while since I don't shoot my round guns too often. Again this is a gas check bullet so it should be able to give a nice BOOM FACTOR behind it. Hopefully without a KAboom.

Thanks in advance...

Violator22 · 08-13-2007, 11:51 PM

Get some Alliant Blue Dot, start out with 9 grains, let me tell you about fireballs. I loaded some 454 with this but was using 20.5 grains behind a 240 grain XTP. the fireball was only about a foot long, and the guys next to me stopped firing because of the concussion.

medicstimpy · 08-14-2007, 01:57 AM

Fireballs? Yeah, that's the ticket. I'll have to see if the other local store has some. The place I usually go doesn't deal with Alliant. Just Win, Hodgedon and IMR. Might just try some 296 for now until some more suggestions come in. THANKS!

ichy_trigger · 08-14-2007, 05:53 AM

H110 will definately push the big boys with lots of fire and brimstone.

13 grains of H110 should put you almost in the 1400 fps bracket
Im sure that load can be pushed a bit more depending on your gun but I would proceed in .5 grain increments.

fredj338 · 08-14-2007, 08:51 AM

For a really throaty load, drop to a 125gr bullet pushed by a full charge of H110 or BlueDot. Recoil isn't bad but the muzzle flash is very impressive. Fired from a 2 1/2" snub, it will drive shooters on either side off the line for sure.

medicstimpy · 08-15-2007, 01:46 AM

Got it... H110 or Bluedot. Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't H110 similar in properties to 296? I know they are different manufacturers but I know some powders are very close to each other. I know 296 has one that is very close but cant remember if it is the H110 or not.

Anyways, my guy sells the H110 so I'll go for a pound and see if it gives the desired effects when I want to blow off some steam and make lots of noise.

Don't worry, Dude, gonna give the Bluedot a try too, but the other place is hard to get to so next time I go, I'll get some.

ichy_trigger · 08-15-2007, 03:27 AM

H110 is a slow powder and thats what you need for your desired fireball effect. Because its slow, it generates higher velocities with the heavier bullets. I believe that 296 is a faster powder but i may be wrong. here is what 25 grains of H110 does in my .44 with a 5 1/2 barrel

Just imaging THAT at night...lol

Violator22 · 08-15-2007, 10:04 AM

Nah itchy, 296 and H110 are basically the same powder, look at the load that they are used on, I had an article at one time, that a lot of the Hodgdon Powder and Winchester powders were the same powder just rebranded. I'll try and find it. Les

ichy_trigger · 08-15-2007, 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Violator22

Nah itchy, 296 and H110 are basically the same powder, look at the load that they are used on, I had an article at one time, that a lot of the Hodgdon Powder and Winchester powders were the same powder just rebranded. I'll try and find it. Les

Thanks for the info, I will have to look into that. I wish i knew if Hodgdon powder and Winchester had a parntership for W760

RobFMJ · 08-15-2007, 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ichy_trigger

H110 is a slow powder and thats what you need for your desired fireball effect. Because its slow, it generates higher velocities with the heavier bullets. I believe that 296 is a faster powder but i may be wrong. here is what 25 grains of H110 does in my .44 with a 5 1/2 barrel

Just imaging THAT at night...lol

I need to take a picture of my .44 mag 30 gr. H110 charges

H110, 2400, and W296 are the good ones for epic muzzle blast.

08-13-2007, 11:40 PM	#1
medicstimpy XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Montreal, Quebecistan in the land of anti's... the dictatorship of Canada Posts: 422	357 load with lots of BOOM factor Hey, all... Just looking for any advice on a nice BIG load for 357 with a RCBS cast 180grain SIL bullet with gas check. I had some IMR4227 lying around for rifle rounds but it didn;t have much kick even at 12 grains. (I think I posted earlier for a load for this powder). I got my 148gr WC with Titegroup or 231 for accuracy but I want something EVIL just to make noise and have fun with once in a while since I don't shoot my round guns too often. Again this is a gas check bullet so it should be able to give a nice BOOM FACTOR behind it. Hopefully without a KAboom. Thanks in advance... __________________ Springfield Armory: 1911 Loaded SS (x2), XD9-TAC & XD45-TAC AR-15: Armalite .223, RockRiverArms 9mm Ruger: Mark III, 10/22 S&W: 686 Tokarev: 1942 Soviet TT33, 1958 Hungarian TT-58 Tokagypt, 1954 .22 Polish Sportowy Norchinko: M14S (x2) Yugo: M48 Mauser, M59/66 SKS Desert Chicken 44Magnum Levers: Win '94 1962 (unfired) & 1958 in 30-30 Taurus: 455 Tracker... 45ACP wheel gun... WAY KEWL If GUNS kill people then spoons made Rosie O'Donnell fat

08-13-2007, 11:51 PM	#2
Violator22 XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 432	Get some Alliant Blue Dot, start out with 9 grains, let me tell you about fireballs. I loaded some 454 with this but was using 20.5 grains behind a 240 grain XTP. the fireball was only about a foot long, and the guys next to me stopped firing because of the concussion. __________________ ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ! If ya can't fix it with duct tape, it ain't worth fixin'

08-14-2007, 01:57 AM	#3
medicstimpy XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Montreal, Quebecistan in the land of anti's... the dictatorship of Canada Posts: 422	Fireballs? Yeah, that's the ticket. I'll have to see if the other local store has some. The place I usually go doesn't deal with Alliant. Just Win, Hodgedon and IMR. Might just try some 296 for now until some more suggestions come in. THANKS! __________________ Springfield Armory: 1911 Loaded SS (x2), XD9-TAC & XD45-TAC AR-15: Armalite .223, RockRiverArms 9mm Ruger: Mark III, 10/22 S&W: 686 Tokarev: 1942 Soviet TT33, 1958 Hungarian TT-58 Tokagypt, 1954 .22 Polish Sportowy Norchinko: M14S (x2) Yugo: M48 Mauser, M59/66 SKS Desert Chicken 44Magnum Levers: Win '94 1962 (unfired) & 1958 in 30-30 Taurus: 455 Tracker... 45ACP wheel gun... WAY KEWL If GUNS kill people then spoons made Rosie O'Donnell fat

08-14-2007, 05:53 AM	#4
ichy_trigger XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 8,316	H110 will definately push the big boys with lots of fire and brimstone. 13 grains of H110 should put you almost in the 1400 fps bracket Im sure that load can be pushed a bit more depending on your gun but I would proceed in .5 grain increments. __________________ "The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." http://militarysignatures.com/signatures/member2645.png

08-15-2007, 01:46 AM	#6
medicstimpy XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Montreal, Quebecistan in the land of anti's... the dictatorship of Canada Posts: 422	Got it... H110 or Bluedot. Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't H110 similar in properties to 296? I know they are different manufacturers but I know some powders are very close to each other. I know 296 has one that is very close but cant remember if it is the H110 or not. Anyways, my guy sells the H110 so I'll go for a pound and see if it gives the desired effects when I want to blow off some steam and make lots of noise. Don't worry, Dude, gonna give the Bluedot a try too, but the other place is hard to get to so next time I go, I'll get some. __________________ Springfield Armory: 1911 Loaded SS (x2), XD9-TAC & XD45-TAC AR-15: Armalite .223, RockRiverArms 9mm Ruger: Mark III, 10/22 S&W: 686 Tokarev: 1942 Soviet TT33, 1958 Hungarian TT-58 Tokagypt, 1954 .22 Polish Sportowy Norchinko: M14S (x2) Yugo: M48 Mauser, M59/66 SKS Desert Chicken 44Magnum Levers: Win '94 1962 (unfired) & 1958 in 30-30 Taurus: 455 Tracker... 45ACP wheel gun... WAY KEWL If GUNS kill people then spoons made Rosie O'Donnell fat

08-14-2007, 08:51 AM	#5
fredj338 XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,449	For a really throaty load, drop to a 125gr bullet pushed by a full charge of H110 or BlueDot. Recoil isn't bad but the muzzle flash is very impressive. Fired from a 2 1/2" snub, it will drive shooters on either side off the line for sure.

08-15-2007, 03:27 AM	#7
ichy_trigger XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 8,316	H110 is a slow powder and thats what you need for your desired fireball effect. Because its slow, it generates higher velocities with the heavier bullets. I believe that 296 is a faster powder but i may be wrong. here is what 25 grains of H110 does in my .44 with a 5 1/2 barrel Just imaging THAT at night...lol __________________ "The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." http://militarysignatures.com/signatures/member2645.png

08-15-2007, 10:04 AM	#8
Violator22 XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 432	Nah itchy, 296 and H110 are basically the same powder, look at the load that they are used on, I had an article at one time, that a lot of the Hodgdon Powder and Winchester powders were the same powder just rebranded. I'll try and find it. Les __________________ ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ! If ya can't fix it with duct tape, it ain't worth fixin'

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