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GeoGordie · 07-17-2007, 06:42 PM

Working on reloads for 9mm .. here is what I have so far and the results.

Hodgon CLAY powder using 3.5 Grains (burns fairly clean)
CCI SP Primer
Mixed Brass
Winchester FMJ FB 115 Grain
OAL 1.105”
Moderate Crimp with Lee Factory Crimp Die

“Seems” to be shooting OK .. groups at 7 to 10 yards (Thinking IDPA ranges) are not bad going by MY shooting ability.
Problem I am having is with a few Stove Pipes here and there … not good for IDPA shooting. Also, several last rounds fail to lock the slide back / open on the last round.
Suggestions please. I am at the point where I could try a different powder if you know one that would be better for 9mm. Better suited for XD’s ??? Need more "Ommmph " ??
From the data I have .. going over 3.5 grains of powder would be “pushing” it ???
Any and all help / suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I would really like to get a good solid round to practice with and take to the IDPA events to use.
Thanks in advance for your time and thoughts.

Gordon in Greensboro

**Old School** · 07-17-2007, 07:05 PM

I think 115gr may be too light for Clays. I prefer a 147gr over 3.2 grains of TiteGroup.

In the end, if it runs in your gun and your are within pressure limits, go with it.

fredj338 · 07-17-2007, 09:39 PM

I've tried Clays & just don't like it much for 9mm or 45acp. It seems finicky to me. Your load is a bit light, you could bump to 3.8gr. I prefer several other powders but hard to beat WST for light loads in most pistol rounds.

scalce · 07-18-2007, 06:41 AM

I would increase the OAL alittle to maybe 1.125 or so.

philbo · 07-18-2007, 07:26 AM

Hodgdon's recommends 3.7 - 3.9 grains of Clays over a 115 jacketed bullet. (3.0 - 3.4 for 115 lead) I would bump your load up a little and lengthen the OAL. I prefer 3.7 grains (when using clays) and an OAL 1.155 with a FMJ bullet. Works well in my XD.

If you're looking for a new powder, I actually prefer Titegroup in the 9mm

scalce · 07-18-2007, 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philbo

If you're looking for a new powder, I actually prefer Titegroup in the 9mm

What are some of your TG loads?

I usually load to about 40-50 fps over pf.

My 115 loads are usually 4.3-4.5 with an OAL of 1.13.

dyferant · 07-18-2007, 08:30 AM

Dude have you put it over a chrono?? Got to see where your load is at the data is just a starting point.

rgeliske · 07-18-2007, 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old School

I think 115gr may be too light for Clays. I prefer a 147gr over 3.2 grains of TiteGroup.

In the end, if it runs in your gun and your are within pressure limits, go with it.

I too prefer TiteGroup over Clays, I just don't get consistant results with Clays. It sounds like your load is too light for the spring you are using. Without a Chrono it is hard to tell what is going on but you can try increasing the powder a little at a time until the problem goes away.

philbo · 07-18-2007, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scalce

What are some of your TG loads?

I usually load to about 40-50 fps over pf.

My 115 loads are usually 4.3-4.5 with an OAL of 1.13.

I prefer the 124 FMJ over 4.2 Titegroup w/OAL 1.155 in the XD. Very clean and reliable with solid ejection. I use 4.4 if I want a little extra oomph for a couple of older autos with heavier slides than the XD.

115 FMJ over 4.4 Titegroup w/OAL 1.155. Feels like the 124's loaded at 4.2.

Krackels · 07-18-2007, 02:09 PM

I load 115 grain Precision Bullets with 4.1 grains of Titegroup with an OAL of 1.100" and I've seen good results.

07-17-2007, 06:42 PM	#1
GeoGordie XDTalk Newbie Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 28	Thoughts on this 9mm reload and question. Working on reloads for 9mm .. here is what I have so far and the results. Hodgon CLAY powder using 3.5 Grains (burns fairly clean) CCI SP Primer Mixed Brass Winchester FMJ FB 115 Grain OAL 1.105” Moderate Crimp with Lee Factory Crimp Die “Seems” to be shooting OK .. groups at 7 to 10 yards (Thinking IDPA ranges) are not bad going by MY shooting ability. Problem I am having is with a few Stove Pipes here and there … not good for IDPA shooting. Also, several last rounds fail to lock the slide back / open on the last round. Suggestions please. I am at the point where I could try a different powder if you know one that would be better for 9mm. Better suited for XD’s ??? Need more "Ommmph " ?? From the data I have .. going over 3.5 grains of powder would be “pushing” it ??? Any and all help / suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I would really like to get a good solid round to practice with and take to the IDPA events to use. Thanks in advance for your time and thoughts. Gordon in Greensboro __________________ *********************** At no time is freedom of speech more precious than when a man hits his thumb with a hammer. ~ Marshall Lumsden ~

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Old School XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Illinois Posts: 7,627	I think 115gr may be too light for Clays. I prefer a 147gr over 3.2 grains of TiteGroup. In the end, if it runs in your gun and your are within pressure limits, go with it. __________________ Visit www.pistolgear.com for all of your XD needs!

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dyferant XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Las Vegas Baby Posts: 311	reloading with clays Dude have you put it over a chrono?? Got to see where your load is at the data is just a starting point.

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Krackels XDTalk 15K Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Southeastern PA Posts: 19,001 Blog Entries: 5	I load 115 grain Precision Bullets with 4.1 grains of Titegroup with an OAL of 1.100" and I've seen good results. __________________ "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." --Benjamin Franklin America's Third Parties --- Duping the Foolish and Idealistic since 1832. PA Roll Call .................... My Blog

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07-17-2007, 09:39 PM	#3
fredj338 XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,225	I've tried Clays & just don't like it much for 9mm or 45acp. It seems finicky to me. Your load is a bit light, you could bump to 3.8gr. I prefer several other powders but hard to beat WST for light loads in most pistol rounds.

07-18-2007, 06:41 AM	#4
scalce XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Upstate SC Posts: 1,415	I would increase the OAL alittle to maybe 1.125 or so.

07-18-2007, 07:26 AM	#5
philbo XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 291	Hodgdon's recommends 3.7 - 3.9 grains of Clays over a 115 jacketed bullet. (3.0 - 3.4 for 115 lead) I would bump your load up a little and lengthen the OAL. I prefer 3.7 grains (when using clays) and an OAL 1.155 with a FMJ bullet. Works well in my XD. If you're looking for a new powder, I actually prefer Titegroup in the 9mm