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XD-45 · 05-06-2007, 03:30 PM

I a loaded a batch with fed 150, Bullseye 5.2 gr and col of 1.260. I can't get them to feed in my XD or a 1911 Operator which works on most anything. Even when I rack the first round it doesn't allways go into battery. Any advice? Shorten/lengthen the col? Heavier charge?

satx40 · 05-07-2007, 07:34 AM

Try shortening the COL. I've had this problem with one of my 9mm's. I shortened the COL enough so that the bullet would not contact the throat. I also rechecked my crimp to see if that was causing a problem.

HTH

Art

fredj338 · 05-08-2007, 06:55 PM

Check the bullet dia. as well, you may have slightly oversize bullets, lead can get that way. They should be 0.452".

XD-45 · 05-08-2007, 07:15 PM

I've shortened the COL to 1.245 and added more crimp. I can get a few to feed, but not many. I'm afraid of too much pressure.

Sharpsshooter · 05-08-2007, 07:17 PM

Is it hard to extract?

If not, I would have to assume too long COL. I use 1.200 for COL on 228g LRN.

If it is hard to extract, you have a sizing problem. Same thing my buddy experienced. A Lee carbide factory crimp die will solve that problem.

XD-45 · 05-08-2007, 07:23 PM

Yes, the loaded rounds that don't chamber are hard to extract. I Don't have this problem with jacketed or plated bullets.

Sharpsshooter · 05-08-2007, 07:50 PM

My guess is that the Precision bullet is slightly larger in diameter than your other bullets causing the case to bulge a little bit. Have you mic'ed them? I bet they are few thousandths bigger than other rounds that do chamber well.

Do you know anyone with a Lee carbide factory crimp die? What it does in addition to crimping is it does a post crimp size to ensure that they chamber correctly if the round is a little oversized. Worst case, you can buy the die alone for about $14 I think.

Since I use all kinds of odd ball brass, not all of them have the same thickness and I'd bet about 20-30% would give me fits without that die. Partly because I size my bullets to .452 and not .451, but I prefer .452.

Lest you think I am alone in this opinion, check out the user reviews on it at Midway. http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpag...eitemid=716704

**Old School** · 05-08-2007, 08:18 PM

I have never had an issue with their 230gr Ball Bullets, but I do know that unless I load the 147gr 9mm bullets short, I have problems. They seem to be too tight in the chamber.

OS

nunnya · 05-08-2007, 09:03 PM

I've seen the same thing when using their 200gr.RNFP.
You need to reduce the COL.
Remove the bbl. from your gun and try to drop one of your rounds into the chamber.
Keep reducing the COL until it just drops freely.
For me it was about 1.225.

nunnya

XD-45 · 05-09-2007, 04:29 AM

Bullets are .451, all I have mic'ed.Thanks for the all the advice.

05-06-2007, 03:30 PM	#1
XD-45 XDTalk Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Altoona, PA Posts: 65	Precision 230 gr RN....need help I a loaded a batch with fed 150, Bullseye 5.2 gr and col of 1.260. I can't get them to feed in my XD or a 1911 Operator which works on most anything. Even when I rack the first round it doesn't allways go into battery. Any advice? Shorten/lengthen the col? Heavier charge?

05-08-2007, 07:50 PM	#7
Sharpsshooter XDTalk Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 76	My guess is that the Precision bullet is slightly larger in diameter than your other bullets causing the case to bulge a little bit. Have you mic'ed them? I bet they are few thousandths bigger than other rounds that do chamber well. Do you know anyone with a Lee carbide factory crimp die? What it does in addition to crimping is it does a post crimp size to ensure that they chamber correctly if the round is a little oversized. Worst case, you can buy the die alone for about $14 I think. Since I use all kinds of odd ball brass, not all of them have the same thickness and I'd bet about 20-30% would give me fits without that die. Partly because I size my bullets to .452 and not .451, but I prefer .452. Lest you think I am alone in this opinion, check out the user reviews on it at Midway. http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpag...eitemid=716704 Last edited by Sharpsshooter; 05-08-2007 at 08:06 PM.

05-08-2007, 08:18 PM	#8
Old School XDTalk 5K Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Illinois Posts: 7,695	I have never had an issue with their 230gr Ball Bullets, but I do know that unless I load the 147gr 9mm bullets short, I have problems. They seem to be too tight in the chamber. OS __________________ Visit www.pistolgear.com for all of your XD needs!

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05-07-2007, 07:34 AM	#2
satx40 XDTalk Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: S.A. Texas Posts: 69	Try shortening the COL. I've had this problem with one of my 9mm's. I shortened the COL enough so that the bullet would not contact the throat. I also rechecked my crimp to see if that was causing a problem. HTH Art

05-08-2007, 06:55 PM	#3
fredj338 XDTalk 1K Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,333	Check the bullet dia. as well, you may have slightly oversize bullets, lead can get that way. They should be 0.452".

05-08-2007, 07:15 PM	#4
XD-45 XDTalk Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Altoona, PA Posts: 65	I've shortened the COL to 1.245 and added more crimp. I can get a few to feed, but not many. I'm afraid of too much pressure.

05-08-2007, 07:17 PM	#5
Sharpsshooter XDTalk Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 76	Is it hard to extract? If not, I would have to assume too long COL. I use 1.200 for COL on 228g LRN. If it is hard to extract, you have a sizing problem. Same thing my buddy experienced. A Lee carbide factory crimp die will solve that problem.

05-08-2007, 07:23 PM	#6
XD-45 XDTalk Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Altoona, PA Posts: 65	Yes, the loaded rounds that don't chamber are hard to extract. I Don't have this problem with jacketed or plated bullets.

05-08-2007, 09:03 PM	#9
nunnya XDTalk 100 Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 218	I've seen the same thing when using their 200gr.RNFP. You need to reduce the COL. Remove the bbl. from your gun and try to drop one of your rounds into the chamber. Keep reducing the COL until it just drops freely. For me it was about 1.225. nunnya

05-09-2007, 04:29 AM	#10
XD-45 XDTalk Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Altoona, PA Posts: 65	Bullets are .451, all I have mic'ed.Thanks for the all the advice.